Heavy Flak guns

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Heavy Flak guns

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Post by Kugelblitz » 28 Aug 2003, 04:20

You think that the 128mm Flak was big, this is nothing. Looking for info for my friend I found this: http://www.europa1939.com/whermacht/art ... rflak.html
It is in spanish but I used babelfish to translate it. It tells about a 150mm flak gun, it used an autoloader sistem, maybe because the shells was to heavy for fast firing normally used in AA guns. But this is unsignificant compared to a 240mm Flak!!!, it was able to put a 177kg explosive shell at a ceiling of 16.700 meters with a velocity of 965 meters per second!, if a 88mm shell explosion scare the crews imagine one 3 times more strong.

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Post by ChrisMAg2 » 28 Aug 2003, 16:40

But both, the 150mm and the 240mm were just experimental guns. And Except the Autoloadeer system, the performance of the the 150mm was only slightly higher then th 128mm. That's why the bigger guns were abandoned. But technicaly speaking, of course you are right, they are amazing.
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Post by Rommel8 » 28 Aug 2003, 16:43

hehe...had they worked, and put into production (early) who knows what the war wouldve been like

anyways, there is always the dual 128mm guns that will always have my heart as #1 ;)

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Post by Dan Reinbold » 28 Aug 2003, 16:57

Rommel...I am sure you have seen (or seen pictures of) the dual 128mm at Aberdeen...just in case you haven't...here is a pic from their website:

http://www.ordmusfound.org/flak40.html

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Post by Dan Mouritzsen » 28 Aug 2003, 21:44

Hi

The largest AA gun ever was the German naval 38 cm S.K.C/34 8)

The German Battleships Bismarck and Tirpitz actually had firing solutions for their 38 cm guns against aerial targets.

That means that the guns did not fire directly into the air, but into the sea in front of the attacking enemy torpedo planes instead. I am quite sure that no torpedo plane pilot wished to fly through a 100 meter high water column, suddenly appearing in front of him :(

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Post by Rommel8 » 29 Aug 2003, 04:38

lol why in gods name would you need a 380mm AA gun

thanks for the pics dan, ive only seen black and white, never knew they were in Aberdeen

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Post by moses » 29 Aug 2003, 06:40

actually the yamato had shotgun-style shells designed for AA use (18.1")

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Post by Mait » 29 Aug 2003, 09:11

Also the Japanese used two 150mm AA guns operationally in Tokyo and shot down a B-29 with them.

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Post by Tom Houlihan » 29 Aug 2003, 16:51

I just thought of a helluva model conversion. Build up that 128mm Zwilling, and mount it on a Maus! Now, there's a Flakpanzer for you!!!

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Post by Kugelblitz » 30 Aug 2003, 01:37

moses wrote:actually the yamato had shotgun-style shells designed for AA use (18.1")
The Yamato was equiped with timed multicoloured shells for their 460mm guns to be used as flak guns probably against torpedo bombers. Probably was used, if you check the photos of the Yamato under attack you will notice that the guns are aimed to a side, probably shoting a torpedo aircraft formation.

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