5 cm Maschinengranatenwerfer M19

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5 cm Maschinengranatenwerfer M19

Post by Erik E » 18 May 2002 17:54

I have found several different datas for this weapon, I was wondering if anyone knows which one is right?

I`m specially after the rate of fire.......

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Post by Robert Hurst » 29 Nov 2002 15:38

Hi Erik

The only data for this weapon, which I have taken from 'Small Arms, Artillery and Special Weapons of the Third Reich', by Terry Gander and Peter Chamberlain, is as follows.

Calibre: 50 mm
Traverse: 360 degrees
Elevation: + 48 degrees to + 85 degrees.
Muzzle velocity: 50-91 m/sec
Bomb weight: 0.9 kg
Range: 50-750 m
Type of feed: 6 bomb clips
Ammunition stowage: 3,944 bombs
Weight of weapon (without mount): 220 kg

The small number that were built were installed in the Atlantic coast defences near Boulogne and in the Channel Islands.
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Post by Erik E » 27 Dec 2002 16:55

Thanks Robert!

I had forgotten this post..........

I have heard that this weapon also had a option for automatic loading, which increased the rate of fire to several hundreds pr. minute......

Ever heard of that????

I could also add that atleast 9 of these were mounted in Bunkers in Norway. 3 of them on submarine bunkers.

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Post by Erik E » 12 Apr 2003 21:09

Hallo!

Still interested in more details!

I have got some more info since last post, but still no rate of fire on fully automatic fire (Which I now know existed!!!)

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Post by Erik E » 13 Apr 2003 22:36

M19 in Koblenz:

One of the very few remaining in the world!
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Post by Erik E » 13 Apr 2003 22:42

Here is one of the few R-633 "Stand für M19" built in Norway.....
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Post by Redbaron1908 » 13 Apr 2003 23:07

great pictures Erik! Are they near where you live? Another question was this weapon used for air defence or for something else.

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Post by Erik E » 13 Apr 2003 23:16

Not too close.... Maybe some 200 Km`s.......

The M19 was a fully-automatic 5cm mortar. It was used as ground defence in a few very important places.
It fired what they called "Sperrfeuer" which in short was a massive bombardement of a small area.....
As ar as I rememember, just over 100 were built.

I have found 2 different rates of fire, so I`m still looking for the correct one......

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Post by Redbaron1908 » 13 Apr 2003 23:23

I see I hope the Gas in Norway wasn t to expensive I had never heard of a an automatic mortar before. Are there others in the Atlantic wall?

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Post by Erik E » 13 Apr 2003 23:37

I hope the Gas in Norway wasn t to expensive


Compared to what you pay in USA, the prices here are close to robbery!


There are a few bunkers left, but only 2-3 has remains of the M19 inside...

Most submarine bunkers had 1 or 2 on the roof, as you can see here:
http://home.hetnet.nl/~thirdreich-bunke ... bboven.htm

Somewhere I have a list with all the known places M19 were used.....
If it is interesting, I could try to find it.......

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Post by Redbaron1908 » 14 Apr 2003 00:45

Thanks Erik for the link I was just wandering if thy had these mortars in the Pas de Calais area would you know if they had them there.

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Post by Erik E » 15 Apr 2003 09:53

Found it!

According to a report made by the Norwegian army, it was capable of fireing 120 rounds pr minute!

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Post by Erik E » 16 Apr 2003 00:08

would you know if they had them there


There was atleast on just north, somwhere called "Stp Martha" at Oye Plage.
The "STP" would indicate that there are several more bunkers there too.

I am not familiar with the channel coast, or this area.......
Maybe someone else knows the location of Oye Plage?

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Post by Redbaron1908 » 16 Apr 2003 00:20

I looked around the internet a bit and found this site

http://www.beugelsdijk.com/a/bunkersite ... alais.html it has some intresting pictures of bunkers in that area and I found a picture of the place and bunker that Erik was talking about.
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Post by Erik E » 16 Apr 2003 08:58

The photo is of a 633, the same as I posted above :)

If you see on the link, they also had a R622 personell shelter
a R120 artillry observation and a R630 Mg bunker with armoured plate!

Erik

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