Maschinenflak.... Greece 1941

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Maschinenflak.... Greece 1941

Post by Christoph Awender » 07 Oct 2003 20:20

Hello!

On Photos of the 72.Inf.Div. in Greece I have a greek bunker with a rounded cupola with a single barrel AA-gun reaching to the air. It is described as "Maschinenflak".
Does anyone know what this is exactly? Is it a remote controlled Flak? Anyone heard of this?
I will post the Photo when I am back home.

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Re: Maschinenflak.... Greece 1941

Post by John T » 07 Oct 2003 21:50

Christoph Awender wrote:Hello!

On Photos of the 72.Inf.Div. in Greece I have a greek bunker with a rounded cupola with a single barrel AA-gun reaching to the air. It is described as "Maschinenflak".
Does anyone know what this is exactly? Is it a remote controlled Flak? Anyone heard of this?
I will post the Photo when I am back home.

\Christoph


I suspects it is just another name for Autocannon.

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Post by Christoph Awender » 08 Oct 2003 14:11

Here is the photo.

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Post by Erik E » 08 Oct 2003 15:14

I have never heard that name, but the Germans also used armoured copulars for flak on bunkers. These were not remotecontrolled, but were used when the gun also had a ground defence role.......

The closest name I can think of is the maschinengranatwerfer, which had a option for automatic loading, but still manual aiming.

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Post by Christoph Awender » 08 Oct 2003 15:19

Thanks Erik!

How did the operaotr aim? On the photo it looks like he has just the view out of this slit.

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Post by Erik E » 08 Oct 2003 15:45

On the German copulars there were a small hatch on the side of the barrel. (Your is not German)

I think your photo shows the backside, and (if similar to the German) the hatch would be on the other side of the copular......

The name given for the German ones are

- 857P7 Drehhaube für 2cm Flak
- 720P3 Pz-drehturm für 8,8cm Flak
- 721P3 Pz-drehturm für 10,5cm Flak
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Post by Christoph Awender » 08 Oct 2003 15:52

Thanks again Erik!

As you say it I realize that I posted this into the wrong section. :oops:

During my research on the Balkan campaign I realize how much fortifications the germans had to deal with. Especially the greeks built tremendous systems underground and upground.

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