German artillery pictures?

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Post by David Lehmann » 07 Dec 2003 20:37

A towed Pak 43/41 :
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Post by Bob_Mackenzie » 08 Dec 2003 09:03

Atilla wrote:Hi Bob,

Got any more pictures of the Pak 43? That would be greatly appreciated!

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Atilla


Dear Attila

Sorry just that one - It was a single on E-bay

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Bob

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Post by Atilla » 08 Dec 2003 23:54

That's a bummer Bob.

Seen quite a lot of pictures of the Pak 43/41 in action (nice photo btw Panzermeyer!), but none of the Pak43 in action so far. Only some captured ones.

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Post by Bob_Mackenzie » 09 Dec 2003 01:29

Atilla wrote:That's a bummer Bob.

Seen quite a lot of pictures of the Pak 43/41 in action (nice photo btw Panzermeyer!), but none of the Pak43 in action so far. Only some captured ones.


Dear Attila

I have a fair few artillery books and I don't think Ive got a single in-action pic :cry:

Cheers

Bob

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Post by Kissa » 09 Dec 2003 18:19

I took this picture at Tikkakoski aviation museum.
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Post by Mark V » 09 Dec 2003 18:37

Welcome Kissa.

En Finne igen !!!

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Post by Bob_Mackenzie » 10 Dec 2003 00:52

Well if we are posting from Museums.... A series of pics from Diekirche (sp?) Museum in the Ardennes taken 2002: leFH-18
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Post by Bob_Mackenzie » 10 Dec 2003 00:57

PaK-36 + Steilgranate front + back. PaK-40 and PaK-43/41 the last from Clervaux, the wheels are probably not original.
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Post by Bob_Mackenzie » 10 Dec 2003 00:58

oops Clervaux PaK-43
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Questions on identification

Post by Jack Nisley » 10 Dec 2003 16:44

The picture Grenadier posted of a Pak being towed in the snow: Isn't that a 10.5cm leichte Feldhaubitze 18/40 with tubular trails?

MaisAlto's picture of ubel mit Pak: Barrel looks too big for 3.7cm Pak, isn't it a 7.5cmInfantriegeschütz 37, also called 7.5cm Pak 37?

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Re: Questions on identification

Post by Bob_Mackenzie » 11 Dec 2003 01:03

Jack Nisley wrote:The picture Grenadier posted of a Pak being towed in the snow: Isn't that a 10.5cm leichte Feldhaubitze 18/40 with tubular trails?

MaisAlto's picture of ubel mit Pak: Barrel looks too big for 3.7cm Pak, isn't it a 7.5cmInfantriegeschütz 37, also called 7.5cm Pak 37?

Jack Nisley


Dear Jack

I believe you are correct about the PaK in the snaw - its actually a leFH-18. However you are wrong about the 3.7cm PaK. Its definately a 3.7cm, though its am ex-czech PaK-37(t) not the normal German PaK-35/36

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Post by Jack Nisley » 11 Dec 2003 15:14

Dear Bob,

Thought the leFH had tubular trails, someday I'll figure out how to expand the pictures to examine the details.

From Gander and Chamberlin "Weapons of the Third Reich" , 3.7cm Pak 37(t) has recoil cylinder above the barrel, not a recoil slide below. I think I'm correct here.

What do you make of the picture of the older FK in the harbor defense position?

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Post by Bob_Mackenzie » 12 Dec 2003 00:44

Jack Nisley wrote:Dear Bob,

From Gander and Chamberlin "Weapons of the Third Reich" , 3.7cm Pak 37(t) has recoil cylinder above the barrel, not a recoil slide below. I think I'm correct here.

Jack Nisley


Dear Jack

Sorry - my screw up. I got confused with "Pak gun optic of croatian allied" on the first page :oops: which is definately a PaK-37(t) (please don'y ask how I managed to get confused)

The gun behind the Kubel definately looks like a PaK-36 but you are correct the barrel looks too thick. I think its a leIG-37, unfortunately the most destinctive feature, the square muzzel brake is covered up

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Post by Bob_Mackenzie » 12 Dec 2003 00:49

Jack Nisley wrote:Dear Bob,


What do you make of the picture of the older FK in the harbor defense position?


Dear Jack

I'm pretty certain thats a leFH-16 105mm

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Bob

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Post by Jack Nisley » 12 Dec 2003 21:28

Bob,

Don't think it's a 10.5 cm leFH16, the length of barrel sticking out beyond the end of the recoil slide is too long. I looked a little more closely at some references and I think it's a 7.5 cm Feldkanone 235(b), the former Belgian Canon de 75mm TR, a licence-built version of the Krupp Model 1905. There are handrails (?) on top of the barrel just forward of the gunshield.

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Jack Nisley

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