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Sombody knows about this cannon?
10.5 cm sK 18
On top of this page it says :
The original German name of this gun is "S 10 cm K18"
After 1943 also known as "Geräte nr 1036"
What do you want to know about it??
EE
What also should be mentioned, is that the Germans often classified 10,5 cm guns as 10cm (As it was in this case)The classification is only mine, the Wehrmacht classified many guns and howitzers of 10.5 cm as heavy (schwere)
The original German name of this gun is "S 10 cm K18"
After 1943 also known as "Geräte nr 1036"
What do you want to know about it??
EE
Languge is no problem 
As long as we are able to communicate, it is enough for me!
The gun was developed late in the 1920`s by Rheinmetall. It didn`t enter production until 1933, as with most of German artillery. It was mounted on a carriage made by Krupp. The gun was very huge, even though it had a relatively small calibre. It`s weigth was 5,5 tonnes (Same as the 15cm!) making it 3,5 tonnes heavier than the 10,5cm Lfh18!
Yet, the gun was widely used on all fronts, but allmost only motorized units becouse of the weight. Some guns were even used as permanent coastal artillery, with special long-range ammunition.
I don`t know any production numbers, but it would be worth mentoning that the gun was used by Albania and Bulgaria after the war.
EE
As long as we are able to communicate, it is enough for me!
The gun was developed late in the 1920`s by Rheinmetall. It didn`t enter production until 1933, as with most of German artillery. It was mounted on a carriage made by Krupp. The gun was very huge, even though it had a relatively small calibre. It`s weigth was 5,5 tonnes (Same as the 15cm!) making it 3,5 tonnes heavier than the 10,5cm Lfh18!
Yet, the gun was widely used on all fronts, but allmost only motorized units becouse of the weight. Some guns were even used as permanent coastal artillery, with special long-range ammunition.
I don`t know any production numbers, but it would be worth mentoning that the gun was used by Albania and Bulgaria after the war.
EE
The most important factor is the barrel!
The barrel itself was ammost twice as long as for the 10,5cm lfh guns, thus giving it allmost twice the range!
Old production methods can probably explain the massive carriage, but this often prooved useful in heavy terrain, as it was very robust, allmost impossible to destroy!
EE
The barrel itself was ammost twice as long as for the 10,5cm lfh guns, thus giving it allmost twice the range!
Old production methods can probably explain the massive carriage, but this often prooved useful in heavy terrain, as it was very robust, allmost impossible to destroy!
EE
Production numbers of the 10cm K18 were quite low, compared to the production of the lFH18 and the sFH18. The gun was used mostly in motorised/armoured formations, where it replaced a battery of the sFH18 in the heavy Abteilung of the artillery regiment. The reason for the focus on these units was that it ranged much further then the sFH 18 (~19km, compared to ~13km for the sFH18). This made it useful for supporting spearhead formations far ahead of the startline without having to relocate.
The main drawback was the very low HE load of the rounds (only 5.43kg), which reduced the effectiveness of the gun considerably.
The gun was also used in independent Artillerieabteilungen, presumably specialising in counter-battery work. It was also used by Marine Artillerieabteilungen, as pointed out above by Erik.
Production numbers of the gun were probably just about enough to keep up the establishment strength, if not below that.
From Lexikon der Wehrmacht come the following numbers:
Establishment in 1939 - 702
Production numbers:
1939 - 0
1940 - 35
1941 - 108
1942 - 135
1943 - 454
1944 - 701
1945 - ?
Total 2,135. Actually, looking at these I have my doubts that the losses incurred in winter 41/2 in the east would have been made up by new production at all.[/url]
The main drawback was the very low HE load of the rounds (only 5.43kg), which reduced the effectiveness of the gun considerably.
The gun was also used in independent Artillerieabteilungen, presumably specialising in counter-battery work. It was also used by Marine Artillerieabteilungen, as pointed out above by Erik.
Production numbers of the gun were probably just about enough to keep up the establishment strength, if not below that.
From Lexikon der Wehrmacht come the following numbers:
Establishment in 1939 - 702
Production numbers:
1939 - 0
1940 - 35
1941 - 108
1942 - 135
1943 - 454
1944 - 701
1945 - ?
Total 2,135. Actually, looking at these I have my doubts that the losses incurred in winter 41/2 in the east would have been made up by new production at all.[/url]
Re: 10.5 cm sK 18
Does anybody know the crew number?
I always have difficulty in finding the crew number and role with guns...
I would also like to know the travel and firing weights...
Thank you in advance
Federico
I always have difficulty in finding the crew number and role with guns...
I would also like to know the travel and firing weights...
Thank you in advance
Federico
Re: 10.5 cm sK 18
Who can help me with this Ebay photo what type of gun you can see behind two French halftrack ??
Looks to me a s. 10 cm K 18 but also a 15 cm s.F.H. 18 could be possible in my view .
Regards Jos
Looks to me a s. 10 cm K 18 but also a 15 cm s.F.H. 18 could be possible in my view .
Regards Jos
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Re: 10.5 cm sK 18
Yes Jopaerya. You are right: 10cm sK18 guns without doubt
Regards Sturm78
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Re: 10.5 cm sK 18
Thanks Sturm78
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Re: 10.5 cm sK 18
So are the heavy 10cm Kanon and the heavy 10,5 cm Kanon shown in Panzer-Division Zustandsberichte actually the same gun? It is actually 10,5cm but was officially designated 10cm?
I was confused about this because some Panzer-Divisions reported having 10cm Kan. and some 10,5cm Kan. For example, 1st Panzer-Division report 10cm Kan., 2nd Panzer-Division report 10,5cm Kan.
I assumed they were different guns, but I could never find any info about a 10,5cm Kan., only 10cm Kan. And all the info I could find on the 10cm Kan. never mentioned it actually being 10,5cm.
In regards to the crew, KStN 435 1.6.44 (which shows 10cm Kan.) has 32 Kanoniere for 4 guns, so I'm guessing each has a crew of 8?
The whole Geschützstaffel has
1 Batterieoffiziere
1 Hauptwachmeister
2 Zugführer
4 Geschützführer (zugl. 2. Kw.Farh. für Zgkw.)
1 Richtkreisunteroffizier II (also Rechentruppführer)
1 Sanitätsunteroffizier
30 Kanoniere
2 Waffenmeistergehilfen (zugl. Kanoniere)
2 Rechner
2 M.G. Schützen
1 Kradmelder
1 Kettenkrad (Sd.Kfz. 2)
6 Kraftwagenfahrer (2 für Pkw., 4 für Zgkw.)
2 leichte Maschinengewehr
4 Geschütze
2 leichte Personenkraftwagen
4 mittlere Zugkraftwagen 8 t (Sd.Kfz. 7)
It is also the same for an s.F.H. Batterie
I was confused about this because some Panzer-Divisions reported having 10cm Kan. and some 10,5cm Kan. For example, 1st Panzer-Division report 10cm Kan., 2nd Panzer-Division report 10,5cm Kan.
I assumed they were different guns, but I could never find any info about a 10,5cm Kan., only 10cm Kan. And all the info I could find on the 10cm Kan. never mentioned it actually being 10,5cm.
In regards to the crew, KStN 435 1.6.44 (which shows 10cm Kan.) has 32 Kanoniere for 4 guns, so I'm guessing each has a crew of 8?
The whole Geschützstaffel has
1 Batterieoffiziere
1 Hauptwachmeister
2 Zugführer
4 Geschützführer (zugl. 2. Kw.Farh. für Zgkw.)
1 Richtkreisunteroffizier II (also Rechentruppführer)
1 Sanitätsunteroffizier
30 Kanoniere
2 Waffenmeistergehilfen (zugl. Kanoniere)
2 Rechner
2 M.G. Schützen
1 Kradmelder
1 Kettenkrad (Sd.Kfz. 2)
6 Kraftwagenfahrer (2 für Pkw., 4 für Zgkw.)
2 leichte Maschinengewehr
4 Geschütze
2 leichte Personenkraftwagen
4 mittlere Zugkraftwagen 8 t (Sd.Kfz. 7)
It is also the same for an s.F.H. Batterie