4,7 cm Böhler anti-tank gun

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Re: 4,7 cm Böhler anti-tank gun

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Post by Millsy » 10 May 2021, 10:25

sorry to ask more questions -was the the Pagkoepel a casemate (i.e. concrete 'pillbox' but specially designed for the bohler ) or a turret (i.e. moveable able to traverse)

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Re: 4,7 cm Böhler anti-tank gun

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Post by JKernwerk » 10 May 2021, 15:41

Hi Millsy,
The turret was fixed and not rotatable, the turret weight was about 10 or 20 tons but I have to check that.
Indeed only the Bohler was to be mounted but that was not a problem, the AT guns that were to be bought and used by the Dutch Army were the Bohler.
Some other AT guns were tested but the Bohler was the best possible (others were the Boxman and at least Rheinmetall and I also remember seing drawings of the 2Pdr Vickers).
I can imagen it was not easy to get the Bohler out of the casemate, so even when the weapon was mobile it was not a matter of seconds to get it out and put in an open position to repel a attack from the side or rear, I have not seen any drawings what the standard layout of a position should look like.
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Re: 4,7 cm Böhler anti-tank gun

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Post by svdb10 » 11 May 2021, 09:35

Some pictures of the remaining cupola (no 1102) at the Military Museum Soesterberg (photo's were taken when the new museum was being built)
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Re: 4,7 cm Böhler anti-tank gun

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Post by Millsy » 12 May 2021, 13:41

thanks chaps - some excellent info its sort of the big brother to the 'panzernest' that the Germans used albeit not so portable :-)

I will be definitely working that into my AH story

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Re: 4,7 cm Böhler anti-tank gun

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Post by Sturm78 » 24 Feb 2024, 01:13

Hi all,

An image of a Bohler 47mm gun in Romanian use.
Which is the purpose of the tubular structure around the gun ? I have never seen this on any Bohler gun before.... :?

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Re: 4,7 cm Böhler anti-tank gun

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Post by nuyt » 24 Feb 2024, 17:16

Romanians used it as mountain and paratrooper pack gun, so this may be what we are looking at.

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Re: 4,7 cm Böhler anti-tank gun

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Post by kfbr392 » 28 Feb 2024, 22:49

looks like a lifting tool to facilitate the removal and re-attachment of the tires.

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Post by Sturm78 » 29 Feb 2024, 00:18

kfbr392 wrote
looks like a lifting tool to facilitate the removal and re-attachment of the tires.
Ummmhhh...It could be...but it is rare...In the background it looks like there are some soldiers pulling another gun with this tubular structure assembled...

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Re: 4,7 cm Böhler anti-tank gun

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Post by nuyt » 29 Feb 2024, 16:35

I think it's quite simple, a version of the towing device/trailer for the FLAK 20mm, see here:
https://superbloov.life/product_details/15332534.html
I guess the original carriages of the Bohler were not suited for " high" speed towing.

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