4,7 cm Böhler anti-tank gun

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Re: 47mm Böhler anti-tank gun

Post by jopaerya » 22 Jul 2010 11:34

Thanks Clive

For your reply , that explains the horse's .

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Re: 47mm Böhler anti-tank gun

Post by YC Chen » 22 Jul 2010 11:55

Bohler 47mm gun in Chinese service in late 1930s:
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Post by YC Chen » 22 Jul 2010 11:58

Another photo:
One or two Bohler 47mm guns still survives in China today. I'll post the photos of the surviving guns later.
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Re: 47mm Böhler anti-tank gun

Post by AVV » 22 Jul 2010 17:52

Hello!
YC Chen wrote:One or two Bohler 47mm guns still survives in China today. I'll post the photos of the surviving guns later.
Interesting fact! Looking forward to seeing your photos. :)

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Re: 47mm Böhler anti-tank gun

Post by assfort » 22 Jul 2010 19:06

Thanks a lot YC Chen, information and images that are very interesting.
The guns should be of Italian manufacture, probably Breda.

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Post by YC Chen » 23 Jul 2010 09:20

assfort wrote:Thanks a lot YC Chen, information and images that are very interesting.
The guns should be of Italian manufacture, probably Breda.
Really? How do you know that?
In fact, some Chinese sources call these guns "Italy made 47mm Böhler anti-tank gun" and I used to think this statement is wrong because I thought all Böhler guns were built in Austria.
I'll go to Beijing for holiday this summer and when I come back I can show you the photos of the surviving gun(s).

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Re: 47mm Böhler anti-tank gun

Post by assfort » 23 Jul 2010 15:25

Good morning. :D
The italian factory Breda bought by Bohler's the license for the direct production of 47/32, then sold directly some guns to countries including China, Finland and Romania.
In your photos, the wheels are the "former" italian type, with holes for transport on mules ("someggio").
Italian guns was the Modello 35 and the Modello 39 with new, steel spoked wheels and with semi-pneumatic tires.
Normally, on the gun you can find a Breda manufacturing plate. The mark is also on the breech.
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Re: 47mm Böhler anti-tank gun

Post by Sturm78 » 31 Jul 2010 15:44

Hi all,

I found this image on Ebay. I think it is a italian gun knocked out in the Eastern Front.

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Post by YC Chen » 04 Aug 2010 13:25

Surviving 47mm Böhler anti-tank gun in Beijing:
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Post by YC Chen » 04 Aug 2010 13:27

Close-up photo:
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Re: 47mm Böhler anti-tank gun

Post by AVV » 04 Aug 2010 18:48

Hello!
YC Chen wrote:Surviving 47mm Böhler anti-tank gun in Beijing:
Thanks for the photos! :)
I see there are a lot of interesting artillery exhibits in this museum (Japanese and American guns are visible in the upper photo).

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Post by YC Chen » 05 Aug 2010 12:48

AVV wrote:Hello!
YC Chen wrote:Surviving 47mm Böhler anti-tank gun in Beijing:
Thanks for the photos! :)
I see there are a lot of interesting artillery exhibits in this museum (Japanese and American guns are visible in the upper photo).

Best regards, Aleks
Yes, I took photos of all of them. :)

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Re: 47mm Böhler anti-tank gun

Post by Clive Mortimore » 05 Aug 2010 13:39

Hi All

I came across these on http://www.ioh.pl/forum/viewtopic.php?t ... sc&start=0 I think they are Swiss guns. The second one shows a different view of a horse hauled one.
http://www.ioh.pl/forum/download.php?id=58895
http://www.ioh.pl/forum/download.php?id=58894
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Re: 47mm Böhler anti-tank gun

Post by assfort » 06 Aug 2010 00:35

Hello YC Chen, great photos! :D
I think it's really an "italian made" 47mm
In the 1940-43 war the Italian army, however, also used Dutch models assigned by the Germans.
Yes Clive, the 4,7 cm InfanterieKanone is the swiss modell. This interesting video shows the gun in action
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FBcNK2FTxs

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Re: 47mm Böhler anti-tank gun

Post by KaiserChief » 07 Aug 2010 08:17

assfort wrote:Good morning to everybody, here a photo of a coastal posting for 47/32 gun, built in 1942 by the Italian army to defend a road to Cagliari.
The gun was simply climbed on, after having removed the wheels, on 3 niches in the walls: one for the support plate, two for the gun carriage.


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A 47/32 from the Artillery Museum in Turin
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Hello Assfort,

do you have more photos or plans of Italian emplacements/bunkers for this gun?

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