Another "what is" Question...

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Another "what is" Question...

Post by Erik E » 07 Aug 2002 19:03

Maybe an idea for a new section :D

Anyway, I found these containers near a German coastal artillery fortress.
I think they are meant for food, but wanted to hear your oppinions on it.
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Post by Caldric » 07 Aug 2002 19:07

Food sounds good :)

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Post by Erik E » 07 Aug 2002 19:31

Not if it has been in there since 1945...... :?

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Post by Scott Smith » 07 Aug 2002 20:56

It looks like containers for grain used for baking bread. Just my guess.
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Post by Erich » 08 Aug 2002 02:50

Hello my friend. I see they are fully rusted, but any markings at all ? Seems to have had a very secure lid, were they in the vicinty. someshort of powder, whether food or something else ? I find the extra panels on the top by the removed lid interesting.......

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charge cans

Post by admfisher » 08 Aug 2002 05:28

These may also be charge cases. Some of the non german guns used in these forts were from other countries that used silkbag charges contained in a metal container with a pull off top....

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Post by Luca » 08 Aug 2002 08:23

Dear Erich,
i ve look this piece much years ago.
They was green and, if i remeber well, was used for conservation the hot temperature of the food.
Sorry for the poor help.
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Re: charge cans

Post by Aufklarung » 08 Aug 2002 13:25

admfisher wrote:These may also be charge cases. Some of the non german guns used in these forts were from other countries that used silkbag charges contained in a metal container with a pull off top....



Bingo. The pressure release, and the fact they're not double lined or insulated suggest Powder transport containers rather than food.

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Post by Erik E » 08 Aug 2002 18:07

These may also be charge cases. Some of the non german guns used in these forts were from other countries that used silkbag charges contained in a metal container with a pull off top....


This sounds more correct to me! The guns used in this battery was the French Schneider 105mm M36 (German 10,5 cm K 332 (f) )
So, does anyone know if these guns used such silk bags?
And I know that silkbags can be used with or without shellcase, so the answer is maybe not easy....???

And for Erich, Sorry no markings......
There were tanks from flamethrowers laying there too, but I guess these containers are for something else......

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containers....

Post by Erich » 08 Aug 2002 18:35

Heavy and of steel manufacture ? seals and lids gone so maybe room for two silk bags ?
Surely cannot be a container for grenades or rifle.mg ammo as they would be noramlly made of wood......

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Post by Erik E » 08 Aug 2002 19:14

The photos doesn`t show how large they really are.....
I would guess their height to approx. 50-60 Cm`s and the weight between
5-10 Kilos. If they were meant for powderbags, it surely took a lot more than 2.....

EE

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