Help to identify artillery

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Joan
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Help to identify artillery

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Post by Joan » 03 Sep 2004, 14:37

Can you help me to identify these pieces of artillery?

The photographs were taken in the Musée du Mur de l'Atlantique (Audinghen, France)

1-??
2-Pak (38, 40....?)
3-Pak (38, 40....?)

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Post by Xavier » 03 Sep 2004, 14:56

first is the standard 10.5 piece, with muxxle brake second one is a pak 40

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Post by Roger Griffiths » 03 Sep 2004, 21:28

Are you serious Xavier, pic. 1 an leFH18? I think it's a 15cm sFH36 in one of it's variants. It was supposed to be light enough to be horse drawn in one piece ie short barrel and some light alloy components.

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Post by bryson109 » 03 Sep 2004, 22:46

Don't know alot about artillery but no.2 is a PAK 40.
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Post by Xavier » 03 Sep 2004, 23:51

@Roger Griffiths

yes, you are correct, my mistake, an apology.... :(

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Post by Antonio Pena » 10 Sep 2004, 00:24

I have doubts about the first howitzer, the gun barrel same too short to be the sFH18 (3.805 mm; the sFH40and sFH 18/40: 4.875 mm;) and the muzzle brake is different of the one used in the sFH 18M. Maybe this gun was modified after the war due a gun barrel rupture or ?.

Joan, can you take photos of the chamber and around, maybe we could see any reference (numbers proofmarks...), thankyou

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Post by Roger Griffiths » 10 Sep 2004, 01:26

Yes Antonio, that might just be why I said I thought it was an sFH 36, not an 18.

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Post by Antonio Pena » 10 Sep 2004, 21:19

The carriage of the sFH 36 is very different, and also the muzzle brake, I think that this is not a sFH 36, look to these photos (from Lexikon der Wehrmacht),

http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Waf ... msFH18.htm
http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Waf ... msFH36.htm
http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Waf ... msFH40.htm
http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Waf ... H18I40.htm

note the lenght of the barrel compared with the gun in Joan's photo, also the muzzle brake of the sFH 36 (sFH 18M similar).

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Post by Roger Griffiths » 10 Sep 2004, 21:56

Yes, Antonio. After posting that, I had serious doubts. I wonder if it's a post war tube and shield of non-German origin.

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Post by JariL » 13 Sep 2004, 14:53

Hi,

I would guess the first one is some kind of post war modification of 150 mm Schwere Feldhaubitze 18. Shield and barrel do not look original.

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