Berlin flak towers

[Erik E]

If we add all this info together as an Ally bomber that wants to demoralize the population with terror and death I would simply just pound as much as I can the towers

If the construction started in 1940, the situation in Germany was completely different from what happened there 3-4 years later! I bet no 1940 type bombs would do much harm to these towers.
Flak was often placed on house roofs, or special made towers if there were no suiteable hills nearby, so a Flaktürm would solve 2 problems with one construction...Both shelter and platform!

EE

[medieval dudes]

If the construction started in 1940, the situation in Germany was completely different from what happened there 3-4 years later! I bet no 1940 type bombs would do much harm to these towers.
EE

Good day everyone

You have a point there Erik but as the war progressed the Germans realized that the Allies had far superior bombs that could destroy easily their bunkers (many strong position were destroyed in France which we can use as the example). So in the end did the Germans simply wait for a catastrophy to happen where like I said 30 000 would die, instead of trying to improve the towers by sheltering the population under them (in tunnel systems)????

Greg

[PJF]

It should be pointed out that the phot I posted doesn't illustrate actual scale too well. The crater shown is actually quite massive...probably a good 3 to 4 feet across and close to 1 foot deep.

I don't think that any bomb short of a direct hit by a tall boy or grand slam would have much of a destructive impact on the structure itself.

[Ljunggren]

Carpet bombimg isn´t an exact sience.... And those Flakturms are massive!
I had the privilege to visit Humoldthain a month ago, going inside the complex on a tour with "The Berlin Unterwelt" society. Higly recommended. Among other things, the guide told about the high tech guiding system for the guns. The guns wasn´t actually aimed by the gunners, but from the L-turm, with a radar equippment.
Also, the shells was time-set in the the lower regions an transported på lift to the guns and loaded automatically. Sometimes, there was too much lubrication on the railing, this making the shells to slow down and explode before the reach the guns.
Any other imput on the technicallities on the Flak towers would be greatly appreciated!

[jopaerya]

Hello All

Here some nice picture's of a Flakturm and a Leitturm with W.R. in Hamburg .
http://cgi.ebay.de/Hamburg-Gr-Flak-Bunk ... 286.c0.m14

Regards Jos

[Simon K]

Is it possible to repost some of the earlier pics?
They are no longer downloading, and would love to see them.
See - Flak Tower and U Bahn stations - thread. great pics of surviving Flak towers.

[Simon K]

I think nothing short of a modern air launched, high precision heavy calibre munition could take one of these scary but beautiful structures down.
And it would probably shoot back!

[jopaerya]

Here some picture's of the Gefechtturm IV ( Heiligengeistfeld ) in Hamburg from Ebay.de
please see also the large barracks near the Flakturm .

Regards Jos

[kstdk]

Hello Jos

Thanks a lot for theese excellent fotos of the Flakturm at Heiligengeistfeld

Wonder why I did not find thoose at E-Bay........as i am always on the lookout for that kind of fotos.

Regards
Kurt
kstdk

[jopaerya]

Hello

This picture is from a Flak Leitturm with a W.R. on top of the bunker , according to the photocaption Hamburg .

Photo = Ebay.de

Regards Jos

[kstdk]

Hello

None of the Leitturme in Hamburg had water so near.

I would say that it is the Leitturm of the Zoo bunker in Berlin - that fits with the small stream / channel in the foreground.

Yes the Zoo / Tiergarten Leit-bunker.

Regards
Kurt
kstdk

[jopaerya]

Thanks Kurt

For the additional information on the place for the Leitturm , so it's Tiergarten Leitturm .

Regards Jos

[kstdk]

Hello Jos

I think so - have a look at this picture.

Regards
Kurt
kstdk

[SES]

Hi guys,
Nice pictures, thanks for sharing and I agree on your location by the Berlin Zoo:
http://www.gyges.dk/konaja_raum_baer.htm
bregds
SES

[jopaerya]

Hello

Here some photo's from the Leitturm and Gefechtsturm during a visit of Bulgarian officers in 1942 .
Some photo's from the inside and outside of these buildings

Photo's = Ebay.de

Groeten Jos