MKB 11/ 504 Fjell

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MKB 11/ 504 Fjell

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Post by Erik E » 26 Aug 2002, 23:40

This weekend the magnificent "Batterie Fjell" had open! (only 1 day each year) The fort was once equipped with one of the Gneisenau turrets. The turret was scrapped in the 50`s, but the site is still filled with loads of interesting stuff and some really rare regelbau bunkers!
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Rows of emplacements for 105mm AA guns
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105mm SKC32/nL with "Dreiwag"
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M19 Granatenwerfer mounted on a R-633
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Post by Erik E » 26 Aug 2002, 23:42

And finally......
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7P7 and 492aP2 panzerplatte for MG and optics
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Post by Erich » 27 Aug 2002, 00:03

Erik :

Great pics my friend :D is the 105mm scan of the origianl German piece or a remodel ?

Thanks for the scans.....wonderful !

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Post by Erik E » 27 Aug 2002, 00:40

As original as it can be!
Take a look at these....
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Nice details!
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Note that the chamber has been sealed...
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Actually mounted in a 88mm "Dreiwag"
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105's !

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Post by Erich » 27 Aug 2002, 00:57

Wow ! beautiful and well preserved. 105's on a 88mm support or table like mounts. I had thought that the 105 would of had a barrel almost 1/3rd longer like the AA pieces at Mersburg and Leipzig.

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Post by Erik E » 27 Aug 2002, 01:07

I guess those would be the SKC/33 version??(same found on most German warships)
I haven`t found much on this type, but it might be some kind of special fortress gun? As you can see, it was not moveable at all, so it`s either a early shipversion (Maybe submarine?) or for fortress use.....

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Post by Erich » 27 Aug 2002, 01:12

The mount is not at all very tall, in fact it does not appear for 8.8.cm flak though I could be wrong. Fortress wepaons they have to be with your fine scans of blown fortress emplacements. Short barrels for tight spaces is what appears to me, so no air to air defences but for ground only. I wish I knew my artillery pieces better. Wonder if this could of been a Kriegsmarine fit ?

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Post by Erik E » 27 Aug 2002, 01:37

Just found that this type was used as main gun on most torpedo boats and some submarines. This means that it is a Kriegsmarine gun. But I also know for sure that the 4 guns at this fortress was used as AA.
The unit which operated them was called Marine FLAK abt.802 and were a part of "Marine Flakgruppen kommando Bergen"
Several other places, like Trondheim also had the SKC/32 as a part of their AA weaponory.....
But I agree that the barrel seems like it was meant for something else.
I`ll try to dig more into it!

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Post by Erich » 27 Aug 2002, 02:00

Most interesting Erik. I am familiar with the Marine title of that unit. Have you found displayed any 88mm's with the same shorter mountings ?

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Post by Snorre » 27 Aug 2002, 21:51

Hi Erik,

Really great pics. I regret not to have been there :cry:

Rgrds,

S 8)

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Post by Erik E » 27 Aug 2002, 22:58

It was well worth it! I travelled for 8 hours and paid allmost 1000Kr in ferries 8O

You should try to be there next year!

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Post by Erich » 27 Aug 2002, 23:03

Question Erik, you mentioned it is only open once a year........at the same date(s) each and every year ?

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Post by Erik E » 27 Aug 2002, 23:17

I had never been up there before so actually I don`t know......
A part of the area is used as a naval radar site, and they are not to happy with 1000 enthusiasts with cameras too often8)
I think that the dates are decided by the navy.......

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Post by Erik E » 07 Jul 2003, 00:49

For the second time, last week I had the pleasure to visit this "goldmine" for bunker freaks once more :)

This place is really filled with regelbau bunkers, some of them very well preserved and in really good shape!
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This was actually mounted 60 years ago!
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A nice fireplace inside a Fl242 Flak bunker
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A look inside a 749p8 artillery obsevation copular
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Post by karltrowitz » 09 Jul 2003, 07:44

Erik,that M19 mortar bunker you show here,does it still have the mortar fitted to it or has it been scrapped?

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