Marineflak
Hello,
Here some mysterious foundation.
It is charateristic to every 4 x 10.5 cm KM Sperrbatterie placed at Hel Peninsula (Hela). It is positioned near guns positions, slightly behind them. I don't believe in theories saying that it might have been the foundation for a searchlight. Firstly, the lightwave would enlight gun positions from behind while shooting to sea targets, secondly searchlights would have posed a nice target, so it was rather irrational to place them so close to the guns.
Does anyone have any idea what the purpose of the depicted object might have been? Or seen anything similar in Norway, Denmark, Germany, France, The Netherlands?
Best regards,
M.
Here some mysterious foundation.
It is charateristic to every 4 x 10.5 cm KM Sperrbatterie placed at Hel Peninsula (Hela). It is positioned near guns positions, slightly behind them. I don't believe in theories saying that it might have been the foundation for a searchlight. Firstly, the lightwave would enlight gun positions from behind while shooting to sea targets, secondly searchlights would have posed a nice target, so it was rather irrational to place them so close to the guns.
Does anyone have any idea what the purpose of the depicted object might have been? Or seen anything similar in Norway, Denmark, Germany, France, The Netherlands?
Best regards,
M.
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Hello Beaviso
I saw the bettungen on a other Topic ,
never saw them in a M.F.B. in the Atlantik Wall
I agree with you that this is not for searchlight.
My best gues is that it is a bettung for a 2cm Flak 30
in a Sockel-Laf 29.
Can you help me with a drawing of the 10,5cm Sk C/32
flakbettung in Poland
Jos
I saw the bettungen on a other Topic ,
never saw them in a M.F.B. in the Atlantik Wall
I agree with you that this is not for searchlight.
My best gues is that it is a bettung for a 2cm Flak 30
in a Sockel-Laf 29.
Can you help me with a drawing of the 10,5cm Sk C/32
flakbettung in Poland
Jos
Hi all,
Different shapes, different dimensions Total improvisation
Rumia
Gdynia-Kolibki
Gdynia-Maly Kack
Hel
Gdynia-Kolibki
Jastarnia
Jopaerya You wrote :
The Flakleitstand is a regelbautype is a Fl 184 is also used in M.F.B. in France, ....
Very interesting. You have photographer of such Flakleitstand ?
Regards,
Alkali
Temporarily only picture - 10,5cm Sk C/32 flakbettung in Poland (Gdynia area).jopaerya wrote:Can you help me with a drawing of the 10,5cm Sk C/32
flakbettung in Poland
Different shapes, different dimensions Total improvisation
Rumia
Gdynia-Kolibki
Gdynia-Maly Kack
Hel
Gdynia-Kolibki
Jastarnia
Jopaerya You wrote :
The Flakleitstand is a regelbautype is a Fl 184 is also used in M.F.B. in France, ....
Very interesting. You have photographer of such Flakleitstand ?
Regards,
Alkali
A type 184 at Munkholmen outside Trondheim:
Photo from
http://munkholmen.info/munkholmen-festningen.htm
Photo from
http://munkholmen.info/munkholmen-festningen.htm
Hi,
Erik E., very nice picture, thank It is yet small problem - Flakleitstand in Munkholmen has 6-meter range-finder. All Flakleitstand in Gdynia had 4-meter range-finder. 6-meter range-finder were applied only onto Hel Peninsula (Hela) Yet there Flakleitstand were completely different.
Picture of some Flakleitstand from region Gdynia.
Gdynia-Kolibki
Rumia
Gdynia-Leszczynki
Gdynia-Babie Doly
It seems, that they are somewhat different that this in Munkholmen.
Original German copula from 4-m range-finder.
Regards,
Alkali
Erik E., very nice picture, thank It is yet small problem - Flakleitstand in Munkholmen has 6-meter range-finder. All Flakleitstand in Gdynia had 4-meter range-finder. 6-meter range-finder were applied only onto Hel Peninsula (Hela) Yet there Flakleitstand were completely different.
Picture of some Flakleitstand from region Gdynia.
Gdynia-Kolibki
Rumia
Gdynia-Leszczynki
Gdynia-Babie Doly
It seems, that they are somewhat different that this in Munkholmen.
Original German copula from 4-m range-finder.
Regards,
Alkali
Hello Akali
The Driewag- or the Kleinkoggerat were under the panzer ,
that was the same in al the Flakleitstanden only the range finder
is different .
You can see on your pictures that the iron casting of the rang finder
is smaller than the on at M.F.B. Munksholmen.
If you need more info e-mail me.
[email protected]
Jos
The Driewag- or the Kleinkoggerat were under the panzer ,
that was the same in al the Flakleitstanden only the range finder
is different .
You can see on your pictures that the iron casting of the rang finder
is smaller than the on at M.F.B. Munksholmen.
If you need more info e-mail me.
[email protected]
Jos
Hello Alkali
Yes, i quite agree with Erik, most interesting pictures !!!
Although you "stole" my topic on - Field fortified flak - BUT that does not matter at all, as long as you guys are coming with such interesting materials !!!
Keep them coming, please !!!!
But still, if anyone out there have pictures or drawings of Feldmässig Aufgestellte Schwere Flak ( 88 mm ) i would still be pleased to know !!!!
Regards
Kurt
kstdk.
Yes, i quite agree with Erik, most interesting pictures !!!
Although you "stole" my topic on - Field fortified flak - BUT that does not matter at all, as long as you guys are coming with such interesting materials !!!
Keep them coming, please !!!!
But still, if anyone out there have pictures or drawings of Feldmässig Aufgestellte Schwere Flak ( 88 mm ) i would still be pleased to know !!!!
Regards
Kurt
kstdk.
kstdk,Keep them coming, please !!!!
But still, if anyone out there have pictures or drawings of Feldmässig Aufgestellte Schwere Flak ( 88 mm ) i would still be pleased to know !!!!
Like these ones? (I'm no expert in this
http://www.home.no/tjustnes/flak1.html
http://www.home.no/tjustnes/flak2.html
From Justnes, outside Kjevik airfield.
/Valtoro.
Hi jopaerya
From my information it results, that in Gdynia she was only one battery armed in 12,8 cm - Flakbattery Gdynia-Kolibki (Gotenhafen-Koliebken). Former what least two such cannon - as well as some 10,5 cm.
Pictures are weak, flakbettungen is partly covered the ground. You have to wait to spring, we will her clean.
M.F.B. Völtzendorf (Gdynia-Chwarzno) was armed in 4 x 10,5 cm, not 12,8 cm !!!!
Regards,
Alkali
P.S.
You have photographer of such FL 184 Flakleitstand ?
From my information it results, that in Gdynia she was only one battery armed in 12,8 cm - Flakbattery Gdynia-Kolibki (Gotenhafen-Koliebken). Former what least two such cannon - as well as some 10,5 cm.
Pictures are weak, flakbettungen is partly covered the ground. You have to wait to spring, we will her clean.
M.F.B. Völtzendorf (Gdynia-Chwarzno) was armed in 4 x 10,5 cm, not 12,8 cm !!!!
Regards,
Alkali
P.S.
You have photographer of such FL 184 Flakleitstand ?
In total, 3 commanders of Gotenhafen KM Flak batteries received Knight's Crosses!
- Kdr. Flakbatterie Voeltzendorf (Gdynia-Chwarzno) posthumously
- Kdr. Flakbetterie Lensitz (Łężyce)
- Kdr. Flakbatterie Sagorsch / Rahmel (Rumia-Zagórze, Markowiec)
And the Co. of the whole Gotenhafen KM Flak also received one.
They were awarded for their courage in defending Gdynia from attacking Russian and Polish troops (tanks). As for me, it's better they failed
brgds, M.
- Kdr. Flakbatterie Voeltzendorf (Gdynia-Chwarzno) posthumously
- Kdr. Flakbetterie Lensitz (Łężyce)
- Kdr. Flakbatterie Sagorsch / Rahmel (Rumia-Zagórze, Markowiec)
And the Co. of the whole Gotenhafen KM Flak also received one.
They were awarded for their courage in defending Gdynia from attacking Russian and Polish troops (tanks). As for me, it's better they failed
brgds, M.