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Re: Marineflak

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Post by der bunkermann » 02 Aug 2009, 19:42

hi jos, i think it's batterie de mok.
the 2cm flak vierling (mentioned as 2,5cm flak vierloops) is mentioned in a post war inspection rapport.
the gliederung of 20-12-44 does not mention the vierling, so the picture must be taken after that date?
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Re: Marineflak

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Post by der bunkermann » 02 Aug 2009, 19:50

maybe a silly question, but would this 2cm vierling fit on a normal 2cm flak bettung?
because al the earlyer maps and report mention only 1 or 2 X 2cm flak on batterie de mok...

if it dous not fit the b.r.v. should have measured the bettung for the vierling...
i will search for it anyway :D


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Re: Marineflak

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Post by jopaerya » 03 Aug 2009, 06:22

Hi Tim

The 2 cm Vierlingsbettung must be bigger then the normal 2 cm bettung , maybe the same as the 3.7 cm bettung .
Thanks for the tipp of M.Fl.B. de Mok I will dig in this matter .

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Re: Marineflak

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Post by jopaerya » 05 Aug 2009, 10:00

Hello

This should be a other photo from the same row as the previous one .

Photo = ECPA

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Re: Marineflak

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Post by nuyt » 05 Aug 2009, 20:35

but what gun is that, with the recoil on top?

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Re: Marineflak

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Post by jopaerya » 05 Aug 2009, 21:22

Hello Nuyt

It's a 10.5 cm S.K.C/32

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Re: Marineflak

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Post by nuyt » 05 Aug 2009, 21:32

BUt I am confused. The C32 did not have a cilinder on top?
http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNGER_41-45_skc32.htm
ON this AA ship they have:
http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNGER_41-45_skc06.htm

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Re: Marineflak

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Post by jopaerya » 05 Aug 2009, 21:48

Hello Nuyt

The photo on Naval Weapons.com is a 10.5 cm S.K.C/32U a totally different gun as the 10.5 cm S.K.C/32 .

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Re: Marineflak

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Post by nuyt » 05 Aug 2009, 22:10

ok, so would this be the right gun?
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File: ... _L45_1.jpg

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Re: Marineflak

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Post by jopaerya » 05 Aug 2009, 22:41

Hello Nuyt

Yes, you are right . Here the official name of the guns .

10.5 cm S.K.C/32(n.L.) in 8.8 cm M.P.L. C/30(D = Deckenschutzschilden)

10.5 cm S.K.C/32U in 10.5 cm Ubts.L.C/36

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Re: Marineflak

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Post by der bunkermann » 06 Aug 2009, 21:31

hey guys, the gun on the 2nd photo is definetly NOT M.Fl.B. de mok...
i have been looking on some wartime pictures of the batterie (sorry, can't place them :cry: )
and the deckenschutzschilden on the mok are more roundshaped than the one on the 2nd picture.
the barrel on the picture jos placed has a camouflage pattern, the guns on the mok did not have that.

jos, can you ask if the pictures are really from the same place, because the 2cm vierling picture still looks alot like the mok to me...
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Re: Marineflak

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Post by jopaerya » 06 Aug 2009, 23:03

Hello Tim

I will ask about the 2 pictures if they are from the same photo roll .

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Re: Marineflak

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Post by jopaerya » 25 Jun 2010, 17:02

Hello

Here a nice photo from a M.Fl.B. with 10.5 cm S.K.C/32 in 8.8 cm M.P.L. C/30(D = Deckenschutzschilden) from Ebay

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Re: Marineflak

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Post by jopaerya » 06 Sep 2010, 09:12

Hello

Here some picture's of the inside of the "Deckenschutzschild" with a 10.5 cm S.K.C/32 nL
The were 2 main form of the "Deckenschutzschild" , a "round" version and a "squire plate" version .
On picture 1b you can see the device for setting the time fuzes sharp .

Photo's from Ebay.de

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Re: Marineflak

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Post by der bunkermann » 06 Sep 2010, 16:22

wow 8O cool pictures jos!

first time i see the inside of it...
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