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Post by Carl Schwamberger » 13 Apr 2008, 18:44

Karbine wrote:Thats the one i saw,when did they fire that? was it ever used in battle?

Do you have any videos of the ww2 version firing?

wrote:by Xavier on 12 Feb 2005 17:12
"the one firing the atom bomb is a american gun, during a test (the only one) in the nevada desert.
several were based in germany during the cold war, and I think one is preserved in the entrance of the aberdeen proving grounds
How many were deployed to Germany depneds on the source. There were probally a minimum of 12, with two spares. Some sources claim as many as 38, but I'm skeptical. They may be confusing the large cannon with the slightly smaller and much more common 203mm caliber or 'eight inch' cannon that was provided with nuclear ammunition later in the 1950s. The eight inch was much more mobile as it could be towed by a single heavy truck and emplaced ready to fire in ten minutes or less.

According to Fehernbach 'This Kind of War' President Eisenhower, shortly after taking office, ordered a battalion of twelve of the large cannon deployed to Japan and staged ready to move to Korea on a few hours notice. Commuist spys were then 'allowed' knowledge of the weapons presence and of plans for its use in Korea. It was hoped this would help the Chinese and North Koreans in their decision to reach a cease fire agreement.

The cannon used to fire the nuclear projectile in the video was originally designed to specs drawn up in the 1920s. Construction of some test examples was started in the 1930s and limited production ordered when the US begain mobilization in 1940. Production was terminated around 1943 when its was decided by US Army Ground Forces HQ that superheavy artillery would not be cost effective.

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Post by Ome_Joop » 11 Dec 2008, 06:06

How does this work?
I can understand a railway gun and a turntable and using the turntable to aim the gun (changing the azimuth) but when fired the recoil would move the train back of the turntable (as the K5 just fit's).

What kind of loc was used with the K5 or does it have it's own propulsion somehow (to get it back on the turntable?).
Is there a mechanism on the turntable to pull it back on (or to keep it on it?)

http://marketvids.net/video/German-railway-gun-214/
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x41cir ... annie_tech
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOediCqrukw


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Post by jopaerya » 11 Dec 2008, 20:02

Hello Ome Joop

First the turntable was a Vögele model and had it's one retrievers please see the link and the photo
http://www.one35th.com/model/k5/k5_hist10.htm
For the lokomotive please see the same site http://www.one35th.com/model/k5/k5_loko.htm

Photo = Ebay.de

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Post by Sturm78 » 12 Dec 2008, 21:02

Hi all,

I have a small doubt. Could be used the Vogele turntable with the captured french railway guns used by the German army after June 1940? I have not ever seen any photo.

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Post by jopaerya » 29 Jun 2011, 18:36

Hello

I know the names Leopold and Robert for the 28 cm K 5 (E) , but are they also other names ??

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Post by Manuferey » 19 Jan 2013, 21:46

I have noticed these two pictures of a 28 cm K5, taken in Southern France in the Summer of 1945. I believe that it is one or both of the two K5 captured at Livron, near Montélimar in August 1944.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/huebner-an ... 952033166/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/huebner-an ... 6998248621

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Post by Andrzej Ditrich » 17 Feb 2014, 23:16

Very good material dealing with K5 from Netherlands:
http://www.k5e.nl/919217-p/sluiskil-spo ... 919217-p3/

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Post by Manuferey » 18 Feb 2014, 01:10

Great find ! Thanks Andrzej. :thumbsup:

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Post by schwarzermai » 18 Feb 2014, 08:27

Andrzej Ditrich wrote:Very good material dealing with K5 from Netherlands:
http://www.k5e.nl/919217-p/sluiskil-spo ... 919217-p3/
hello. cant read the text and dont know if this information is there avaible too:

2x K5 were self destroyed by Eisenbahn-Batterie 713 near Sluiskil
and the K12 of Eisenbahn-Batterie 701 too at Sluiskil

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Post by Andrzej Ditrich » 18 Feb 2014, 12:33

On photos form Netherlands: 2 K5 are self-destroyed and one not.
I see 3 K5 in total.

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Post by schwarzermai » 18 Feb 2014, 13:26

Andrzej Ditrich wrote:On photos form Netherlands: 2 K5 are self-destroyed and one not.
I see 3 K5 in total.
2x K5 from 713 and 1x K5 from 710

- 2.9.1944 - Verlegung der Fernkampfgruppe unter dem Eisb.Art.Abt. Stab 702 über den Raum Brügge-Gent/AOK15 in die deutsche Weststellung zur Verfügung Chef H Rüst u B.d.E.
- 4.9.1944 - Befehl : Batterie 710 sprengen, 713 und 701 zurück nach Dünkirchen
- 5.9.1944 - Sprengung der Geschütze (1x K12 und 3x K5) und der Munition (von 701: 96 Schuß, von 710: 138 Schuß und 713: 24 Schuß) in Sluiskil
- 8.9.1944 - zwischen den Bahnhöfen Philippine und Sluiskil werden die Hauptteile der Eisenbahn-Artillerie-Abteilung 702 und der Batterien 701, 710 und 713 durch die Korps-Nachrichten-Abteilung 489 abgestellt aufgefunden, das Gerät wurde nicht ordnungsgemäß gesprengt, erst am 12.9.1944 wird die Sprengung durch eine Landes-Pionier-Kompanie erledigt, es wird ein Kriegsgerichtsverfahren gegen 4 verantworliche Offiziere eingeleitet:
Hauptmann Fuchs - Abteilungs-Führer: 6 Monate Gefängnis
Oberleutnant Beyer - Batterieoffizier in der Batterie 701: 4 Monate Gefängnis
Leutnant Cordes - Batterieoffizier in der Batterie 710: 4 Monate Gefängnis
Oberleutnant Staehr - Offizier im V.0.-Zug der Abteilung 702: 4 Monate Gefängnis

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Post by Andrzej Ditrich » 05 Mar 2014, 03:03

Below few photos of well camouflaged K5:

Source: Fooblog
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Post by Heim62 » 05 Mar 2014, 11:15

Hello Andrzej,
could it be the same place ? (GGview of Wimille/Wimereux).

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Post by jopaerya » 05 Mar 2014, 11:20

@ Nice picture's Andrzej

@ Looks to me the same :thumbsup: RV

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Post by Andrzej Ditrich » 05 Mar 2014, 14:49

Heim62 wrote:Hello Andrzej,
could it be the same place ? (GGview of Wimille/Wimereux).

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Wow! very fast ID Tnx :milsmile:

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