Torpedo Bunkers in Norway

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Re: Torpedo Bunkers in Norway

Post by forttravel » 17 Jan 2017 18:27

It was posted on other Russian forum but no original source indicated.

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Re: Torpedo Bunkers in Norway

Post by jopaerya » 17 Jan 2017 18:57

It's from Natter placed on this Forum , Regards Jos

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Re: Torpedo Bunkers in Norway

Post by AvB » 17 Jan 2017 20:13

Haha, nice boomerang!

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Re: Torpedo Bunkers in Norway

Post by Natter » 21 Jan 2017 10:18

AvB wrote:Very nice! What's the source?
It's the german Lageskizze for Torpedobatterie Ledangsholm in the Namsenfiord, Norway.
It's found in "Baubericht Festungsbau der OT in Norwegen und Dänemark (nr. 91-IV)" at the norwegian national archives (archive-ref RAFA-2188/2/H/Hh/0015). I posted the complete folder in the OT-topic here a couple of years ago.

Aerial photo of the battery today: https://goo.gl/UcKAp9
3D-model of the battery by Harpoon: https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/model. ... b0ddf4bb07

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Re: Torpedo Bunkers in Norway

Post by Natter » 21 Jan 2017 10:24

Edited version as posted on Kystfort.no a while back:
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Re: Torpedo Bunkers in Norway

Post by Natter » 21 Jan 2017 10:50

Ledangsholm is interesting, as it's one of two batteries (the other was Torpedobatterie Nordlandet near Kristiansund) equipped with dutch vierling rohrsatze, produced by Wilton Fijenoord.
I have been looking for more information on these torpedotubes, and by luck I happened to find some reports with details, including serial numbers, on my visit at the national archives in Oslo this week :-)
Still not clear wether the tubes were new material produced for the germans during the war, or if they were picked from seized dutch ships (the serials might be helpful to determine this, although I think the Wilton Fijenoord archives was lost during the war).

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Re: Torpedo Bunkers in Norway

Post by jpz4 » 21 Jan 2017 21:01

Natter, if you know where I should look at the Dutch National Archives I will do my best when I visit them next time (probably in February).
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Re: Torpedo Bunkers in Norway

Post by jopaerya » 12 Oct 2018 08:27

Here a plan to build fixed torpedo battery's along the A.W.

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Re: Torpedo Bunkers in Norway

Post by Natter » 12 Oct 2018 10:13

What roll nr?

I assume none of the 6 proposed batteries were established? Some of the locations were obviously given "spinne-batterien" a year later though.

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Re: Torpedo Bunkers in Norway

Post by jopaerya » 12 Oct 2018 10:46

Marine Gruppe West T 1022 Roll 4073 on page 710

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Re: Torpedo Bunkers in Norway

Post by Natter » 12 Oct 2018 10:51

jopaerya wrote:
12 Oct 2018 10:46
Marine Gruppe West T 1022 Roll 4073 on page 710
Ok, thanks (I was a little confused, since on my copy of the roll it's image no 708).

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Re: Torpedo Bunkers in Norway

Post by jopaerya » 29 May 2019 11:22

Two BAMA photo's from a torpedo batterie with single tubes , Regards Jos
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Re: Torpedo Bunkers in Norway

Post by Natter » 30 May 2019 12:38

Nice find. The last photo is new to me.

It's the first establishment of Torpedobatterie Rutledal (in Sognefiord, at the norwegian westcoast) with older 45cm norwegian tubes and torpedoes (ready for action in the beginning of may 1940).

Later, a concrete bunker was raised a few metres to the west with a twin 53,34cm norwegian torpedogun (taken from a norwegian Sleipner-class destroyer), with 45cm inserts and norwegian 45cm torpedoes.
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Re: Torpedo Bunkers in Norway

Post by Edward L. Hsiao » 11 Jun 2019 08:24

Are there any torpedo bunkers pictures that were in Germany itself?


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Re: Torpedo Bunkers in Norway

Post by Natter » 11 Jun 2019 16:55

Edward L. Hsiao wrote:Are there any torpedo bunkers pictures that were in Germany itself?
There were no shore batteries in Germany during WW2.
There are mentioned some preparations for establishing a couple of "Spinne-batterien" in Germany in late 1944 though, but I have not yet seen any documentation on wether this was actually done.

German WW2 shore batteries were established mainly in Norway (17 batteries, including the two older norwegian batteries and two unfinished batteries in Bøkfiord and Petsamo-fiord (Finland), as well as in the Netherlands (1 battery in Vlissingen), France (2 older french batteries ouside Brest), Croatia (2 older WW1 K.u.k. batteries), Italy (7 batteries in La Spezia and Pola, of wich at least one with subsurface launch).

In addition to the regular shore batteries the germans had twenty-some "schwimmende batterien" (again mainly operating in Norway, but also as harbour defences in France and Netherlands), and the 35 "spinne-batterien" as covered earlier in this topic.

Worth mentioning, is that during WW1, germany had a couple of "schwimmende batterien" as harbour-defence in Kiel and Helgoland.

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