Need info on the Twin 25mm CA mle 1940J and Twin 40mm Bofors

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Need info on the Twin 25mm CA mle 1940J and Twin 40mm Bofors

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Post by hchris » 06 Jul 2005, 01:54

Hi everybody,

I need info and pictures of the Twin 25mm CA mle 1940J and Twin 40mm Bofors AA (non naval) guns please.

Did a towable Twin 40mm Bofors gun exist which wasn't mounted on ships? I really need pictures of this gun.

Also the Twin 25mm CA mle 1940J, I need everything you can find, pictures and info.

Please post everything you have about those 2 guns, info/pictures about them are VEEEERY hard to find on the net and I am still trying to find a book about AA guns.

Thanks in advance,

Chris

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Post by David Lehmann » 06 Jul 2005, 02:09

Canon de 25mm Mle1940J Hotchkiss (25mm twin AA gun)
Caliber : 25x163 mm
Barrel length : 2 barrels of 2200 mm (1500 mm rifling)
Battle-station weight : 1400 kg
Weight traveling : 1800 kg
Rate of fire : 560-600 rpm
Muzzle velocity : 900 m/s (HE and HET) and 875 m/s (AP)
Magazine : 2x 15 rounds magazines
Traverse : 360°
Elevation: -5°, +100°
Maximum range : 7500 m, vertical effective range 2500 m
Ammunition types : HE (250g projectile), AP (300g projectile), Phosphorus (rare)
Penetration : 35mm/0° at 500m

The French army ordered 1,500 of these guns but only 127 were delivered by end April 1940.
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Post by hchris » 06 Jul 2005, 02:45

Thank you sooo much! Please keep the info coming!

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Post by Tony Williams » 06 Jul 2005, 08:33

I've never heard of a land-based twin 40mm Bofors: all the twins were naval AFAIK.

I suppose it's possible that a naval mounting might have been installed in a dockyard or something as a makeshift measure, but I've never seen one.

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Post by hchris » 06 Jul 2005, 13:06

Tony Williams wrote:I've never heard of a land-based twin 40mm Bofors: all the twins were naval AFAIK.

I suppose it's possible that a naval mounting might have been installed in a dockyard or something as a makeshift measure, but I've never seen one.

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I have recently talked to 2 people who claimed that there was a land based twin naval mount. One of them said he found it in a museum and he will send a picture of it soon.

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Post by hchris » 07 Jul 2005, 13:25

Tony Williams wrote:I've never heard of a land-based twin 40mm Bofors: all the twins were naval AFAIK.

I suppose it's possible that a naval mounting might have been installed in a dockyard or something as a makeshift measure, but I've never seen one.

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Post by Tony Williams » 07 Jul 2005, 15:36

Interesting - I've just checked the pre-war Bofors catalogue and 'The 40mm Bofors Gun' by Terry Gander (the standard work on the subject) and neither of them mentions a twin-barrelled land mounting, apart from some SPAAGs. And that definitely looks like a land rather than naval mounting.

So who made it and when?

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Post by hchris » 07 Jul 2005, 16:01

Tony Williams wrote:Interesting - I've just checked the pre-war Bofors catalogue and 'The 40mm Bofors Gun' by Terry Gander (the standard work on the subject) and neither of them mentions a twin-barrelled land mounting, apart from some SPAAGs. And that definitely looks like a land rather than naval mounting.

So who made it and when?

TW
Absolutely no idea, just is just a private photo of somebody who found it in a museum.

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Post by map358 » 11 Jul 2005, 13:46

About the Bofors 40 mm.

As Tony said, there were some use of twin naval mounts on dry land, but except for a few naval guns installed on trains I don't belive there ever was a mobile twin on land.

The twin gun on the picture is certainly not manufactured by Bofors, and I strongly doubt that it's even designed by Bofors. I don't even think it's a 40 mm, it looks like it's of a smaller caliber. My guess is that it's some Russian copy.

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Post by Tony Williams » 11 Jul 2005, 14:38

map358 wrote:The twin gun on the picture is certainly not manufactured by Bofors, and I strongly doubt that it's even designed by Bofors. I don't even think it's a 40 mm, it looks like it's of a smaller caliber. My guess is that it's some Russian copy.
That could well be. The Russian 37mm AA was based on a scaled-up version of the Bofors 25mm, and it looks very similar to the 40mm.

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Post by hchris » 15 Jul 2005, 23:06

Does somebody have the picture of the Twin 25mm CA mle 1940J naval mount? I know it is in the net somewhere but cannot find it anymore....can somebody help me out?

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