Heeres-Einheitsschutzlüfter (HES) 1,2 and 2,4

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Re: Heeres-Einheitsschutzlüfter (HES) 1,2 and 2,4

Post by jopaerya » 02 Jan 2011 21:41

Thanks Darecki

I never know that there were two versions .

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Re: Heeres-Einheitsschutzlüfter (HES) 1,2 and 2,4

Post by Eax-E » 02 Jan 2011 22:08

But it's not in a Ls. bunker...

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Re: Heeres-Einheitsschutzlüfter (HES) 1,2 and 2,4

Post by darecki » 02 Jan 2011 22:17

There is a qeustion: is it on original place or come from somewhere else?

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Re: Heeres-Einheitsschutzlüfter (HES) 1,2 and 2,4

Post by Eax-E » 02 Jan 2011 22:40

Hello,
i believe it's its original location;)

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Post by darecki » 02 Jan 2011 23:01

I hope so... There were many versions of Lüfter. Sometimes hard to distinguish..

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Luftförderer für Schutzräume (i.e.):
Typ 06/3 Luftmenge 0,6 qm/min by Drägerwerk Heinrich und Bernhard Dräger, Lübeck (code RL1-40/26) 
Nr. 12a (1,2 cbm/min.) by Drägerwerk Heinrich und Bernhard Dräger, Lübeck (code RL4-38/15) 
Nr. 14a (5 cbm/min.) by Drägerwerk Heinrich und Bernhard Dräger, Lübeck (RL4-38/29) 
Nr. 24 (2,4 cbm/min.) by Drägerwerk Heinrich und Bernhard Dräger, Lübeck (RL4-38/16) 
LS3 (1,2 cbm/min.) by Maschinenwerk Rheinwerk Heinen & Co., Wuppertal-Oberbarmen (RL4-38/25) 
LS4 (2,4 cbm/min.) by Maschinenwerk Rheinwerk Heinen & Co., Wuppertal-Oberbarmen (RL4-38/26) 
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Post by der bunkermann » 03 Jan 2011 12:01

i have the nice 0.6 picture from jpeg on my computer for several years, and it fascinates me bigtime!
the walls on wich it's hanging, are from steel!! (look at the hole were the Gummischlauch goes in)
would be realy mad if this is a wartime bunker!

here another nice HES 0.6 example in my mate's livingroom :D
the ventilator has to be repainted...

i have never seen a 0.6 viskin wattenfilter, i'm pretty sure they used 1.2 VW's

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Re: Heeres-Einheitsschutzlüfter (HES) 1,2 and 2,4

Post by der bunkermann » 03 Jan 2011 12:04

hi darecki, i dont think it's a luftschutz version, look at the position of the Luftmengenmesser and the shape of the filter...
exactly the same as the military version!

the military HES version was also used in Luftschutzbunkers, i think it's just what a city orderd by the factory and what was on stock?

nice to see a drawing of the 0.6 for ''Schutzräume'' :D

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Post by darecki » 03 Jan 2011 13:02

Yes, probably you have right. My mistake...

Picture taken on Oderstellung. HES 0,6 and VW placed in 1944.
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Re: Heeres-Einheitsschutzlüfter (HES) 1,2 and 2,4

Post by AvB » 03 Jan 2011 14:36

Very nice picture!

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Post by MNO KI » 12 Jan 2011 00:50

This example was recently photographed in a personnel shelter. Is the steel tube between the pump and the rubber hose a standard fitting? I've not seen another example like this.

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Post by jbb20p7 » 12 Jan 2011 08:37

hello,

very nice picture ..... the yellow "prefiltre" isn't in aluminium but in iron

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Re: Heeres-Einheitsschutzlüfter (HES) 1,2 and 2,4

Post by Eax-E » 12 Jan 2011 16:47

Hello,
It is a good question. It's not the same kind of iron replacement tube as the 1,2 tube. It exists the same kind of replacement tube for the 2,4 as for the 1,2 but the kind of tube of your photo is regulary found on 2,4...so standart, maybe, usual on Atlantikwall, sure.
I hope i have been clear :oops:

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Re: Heeres-Einheitsschutzlüfter (HES) 1,2 and 2,4

Post by grappener » 16 Jan 2011 16:04

Hi All,

Have got a question regarding the filter medium in the canisters.

Some British and German respirator filters contained asbestos as a filter medium as well as P3 type (modern terminology for particulates of a certain size) and indeed activated charcoal which is of course the main type of filter medium.

Does anyone know if the large circular filters for the Heeres-Einheitsschutzlüfter contains any asbestos as a filter medium along with the activated charcoal and/or any other particulate membrane?

Obviously the "Viscin-Watte-Filter" was a primary filter which would trap larger particulates and this is a "mechanical" type of filtration medium.

I am seriously hoping that the main "RaumFilters" have nothing more than activated charcoal in them to elminate chemical warfare agents by adsorption over the surface area of the charcoal.

Does anyone have a technical document or diagram in a manual (cross section perhaps??) That could answer this one for us all?

many thanks

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Re: Heeres-Einheitsschutzlüfter (HES) 1,2 and 2,4

Post by der bunkermann » 17 Jan 2011 19:24

hi grappener, the only thing is ca tell you is that i never found asbestos inside filters...
and i have seen quite a few (mainly half rotten and thus open.)

inside the VW filters there is a frame that holds 2 white sheets that looks like ''baumwolle'' (the watten) of some unknown material.

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Re: Heeres-Einheitsschutzlüfter (HES) 1,2 and 2,4

Post by grappener » 17 Jan 2011 23:35

Thanks for the reply Bunkerman, and yes that sounds encouraging. if they are filled with charcoal and maybe some cloth to sandwich it all together in the metal casing.

I've seen the VW Filters you mention and yes it does look like a material membrane but again not asbestos.

Anyone else have a take on this one?

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