Flakbettungen with FFM

kstdk · Post by **kstdk** » 18 Jul 2005 11:07

Hello all

Does anybody know more of the use of FFM guns used as Flak ??

These guns from Aeroplanes were widely used as flakguns for protection of airfields, but not many sources and / or ducumentation or pictures of them available !!

Picture Source: Expried E-bay auction / Manfred Griehl "Das Grosse Buch der Flak".

Regards
Kurt
kstdk.

M.Rausch · Post by **M.Rausch** » 18 Jul 2005 12:59

As far as I know there there no 2 cm MG-FFM used as ground anti-air weapons. What is missing in your list are the MG-151/20 and MK 103.

jopaerya · Post by **jopaerya** » 18 Jul 2005 15:24

Hello Kurt

The 2 cm FF was a Oerlikon gun and was rechamberd for use of short German 2 cm ammo,
I don't know if the FFM was the same type of gun .
Nice topic guns from airplanes , I found one too who knows what type of guns they are
and is it German or American ?
foto = e-bay

Regards Jos

M.Rausch · Post by **M.Rausch** » 19 Jul 2005 10:15

It was the same gun with a modified recoil spring, which was neccessary due to the mass of the new Mine-round. The already existing 2 cm Sprgr. was redesigned to fit to the new recoil spring.

Andrzej Ditrich · Post by **Andrzej Ditrich** » 20 Jul 2005 20:17

http://www.historiecenterbeldringe.dk/b ... baelt2.jpg
from:http://www.historiecenterbeldringe.dk/

Brgds
@ndrew

Erik E · Post by **Erik E** » 20 Jul 2005 20:26

@ Jos

The photo with the strange "Flak sled" towed by a Opel Blitz has been brought up before!

Have a look here:
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=20228

jopaerya · Post by **jopaerya** » 21 Jul 2005 16:22

Hello Erik

Thanks for the info on the foto from E-bay , and I did not
know that the foto was the 2 x 2 cm FF in a bettung with the
3 x double M.G. never seen this before.

Regards Jos

Andrzej Ditrich · Post by **Andrzej Ditrich** » 24 Jul 2005 15:36

http://www.ww2technik.de/dflak_leicht.htm-3 cm Flak Baumaffe-one of bottom pics.

Brgds
@ndrew

jopaerya · Post by **jopaerya** » 01 May 2006 18:17

Hi All

Here a aircraft M.G. 151/20 used as flakdefence .

Photo = Ebay.usa

Regards Jos

ducatim901 · Post by **ducatim901** » 02 May 2006 09:35

EHHHH, what is a FFM??
Jack "dummy" Koorneef

ChrisMAg2 · Post by **ChrisMAg2** » 02 May 2006 09:48

@ducatim901,
it should read 2cm MG FF/M exactely. It's an a/c cannon originaly.

@kstdk,
you have an error in a caption of the starting post:

Pic #2 reads MG 131, but it is a pair of MG 17.
Regards
Christian M. Aguilar

jopaerya · Post by **jopaerya** » 08 Jun 2006 21:01

Hi All

Who knows what type of gun this ??
Oblt. Werner Andres in Holland .

Photo = Ebay.de

Rgards Jos

stril · Post by **stril** » 10 Jun 2006 18:42

Hello
The position where the photo is taken is described in a german map as a FMG position, and also as a FliegerMG.
Could it been for something of the above mentioned guns ?
regards
stril

jopaerya · Post by **jopaerya** » 11 Jun 2006 16:54

Hi Stril

If there are no bolts on the base , it must be a wooden
pole with a Fla-Pivot 17 , I don't know what type of Flieger
M.G. was used in your bettung .

Regards Jos

stril · Post by **stril** » 12 Jun 2006 10:37

Hello Jos
Thanks for your reply.No bolts, i go for your Fla-Pivot 17.
Regards
stril