Flakbettungen with FFM
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Re: Flakbettungen with FFM
Hi all,
I found these three nice images on Ebay. One of them was posted by Jopaerya on 18 July 2005 in this thread
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I found these three nice images on Ebay. One of them was posted by Jopaerya on 18 July 2005 in this thread
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Re: Flakbettungen with FFM
Hi
Here a twin machinegun from Ebay .
Regards Jos
Here a twin machinegun from Ebay .
Regards Jos
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Re: Flakbettungen with FFM
i am currious as to how such multi-gun configurations were triggered, i see that some of them still have there orrgional triggers in place but in there configs they would be useless, and the aircraft guns are different again, can anyone shed some light on this for me thanks.
Jon from Lincolnshire
Wishes he lived in a country that has real bunkers
Wishes he lived in a country that has real bunkers
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Re: Flakbettungen with FFM
Hello
Two picture's from quad M.G. from Beeldbankwo2
Regards Jos
Two picture's from quad M.G. from Beeldbankwo2
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Re: Flakbettungen with FFM
Personly I think it's a 151/15 or 151/20 , but I am realy not sure .
Photo = Ebay
Regards Jos
Photo = Ebay
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Re: Flakbettungen with FFM
Here a post-war Ebay picture of a twin M.G. 81 Z , please see the support racks for the ammunition containers .
Regards Jos
Regards Jos
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Re: Flakbettungen with FFM
Another view (from ebay.de) of the same quadruple assembly:jopaerya wrote:Hello
This looks like a quadruple 7.5 mm Kpfw.M.G. 311 (f) , photo is from Ebay.de
Regards Jos

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Re: Flakbettungen with FFM
Hello Emmanuel
Do you think they are "7.5 mm Mle 1931" or 7.5 mm K.M.G. 311 (f) ??
Regards Jos
Do you think they are "7.5 mm Mle 1931" or 7.5 mm K.M.G. 311 (f) ??
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Sorry, Jos. No idea.
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Re: Flakbettungen with FFM
Based on an examination of the rear of the breechs of the guns I would guess that these are the fortress models of the weapon M1931F. The Vehicle model M1931C has a large square attachment for mounting a shoulder rest while the fortress model has a smaller circular pipe extension in the same location. The guns in the quad mounting appear to have the same small circular extension.
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Re: Flakbettungen with FFM
Thanks Roland1369
For your logical explanation and picture's , AFAIK it's also the only M.G. with the drum on the side ??
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For your logical explanation and picture's , AFAIK it's also the only M.G. with the drum on the side ??
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Re: Flakbettungen with FFM
No, the vehicle mounted guns also used a drum feed.
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Re: Flakbettungen with FFM
By the way - what are these twin MGs presented on the 1st page of this topic:
http://forum.axishistory.com/download/file.php?id=83421
They are obviously not the MG 131, MG 17 is not the perfect match too, I think.
http://forum.axishistory.com/download/file.php?id=83421
They are obviously not the MG 131, MG 17 is not the perfect match too, I think.
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Re: Flakbettungen with FFM
Hi all,
I found this image on Ebay. I think 2cm Oerlikon gun on a pedestal mount.
Is this a standard AA mount or a improvisation ??
I think bulgarian crew, probably
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I found this image on Ebay. I think 2cm Oerlikon gun on a pedestal mount.
Is this a standard AA mount or a improvisation ??
I think bulgarian crew, probably
Sturm78
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Re: Flakbettungen with FFM
Hello Sturm78
The pedestal mount is frequently used see page 3 , 4 and other picture's in this Topic
the gun looks to me a FFM or FM Oerlikon with a extra sight .
Regards Jos
The pedestal mount is frequently used see page 3 , 4 and other picture's in this Topic
the gun looks to me a FFM or FM Oerlikon with a extra sight .
Regards Jos