Flakbettungen with FFM

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Re: Flakbettungen with FFM

Post by Sturm78 » 16 Jan 2011 20:27

Hi all,

I found these three nice images on Ebay. One of them was posted by Jopaerya on 18 July 2005 in this thread

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Re: Flakbettungen with FFM

Post by jopaerya » 21 Aug 2011 09:35

Hi

Here a twin machinegun from Ebay .

Regards Jos
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Re: Flakbettungen with FFM

Post by Kalinor » 21 Aug 2011 13:33

i am currious as to how such multi-gun configurations were triggered, i see that some of them still have there orrgional triggers in place but in there configs they would be useless, and the aircraft guns are different again, can anyone shed some light on this for me thanks.
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Re: Flakbettungen with FFM

Post by jopaerya » 28 Oct 2011 14:54

Hello

Two picture's from quad M.G. from Beeldbankwo2

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Re: Flakbettungen with FFM

Post by jopaerya » 15 Apr 2012 16:16

Personly I think it's a 151/15 or 151/20 , but I am realy not sure .

Photo = Ebay

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Re: Flakbettungen with FFM

Post by jopaerya » 04 Sep 2012 20:59

Here a post-war Ebay picture of a twin M.G. 81 Z , please see the support racks for the ammunition containers .

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Re: Flakbettungen with FFM

Post by Manuferey » 30 Sep 2012 16:30

jopaerya wrote:Hello
This looks like a quadruple 7.5 mm Kpfw.M.G. 311 (f) , photo is from Ebay.de

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Another view (from ebay.de) of the same quadruple assembly:

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Re: Flakbettungen with FFM

Post by jopaerya » 01 Oct 2012 14:56

Hello Emmanuel

Do you think they are "7.5 mm Mle 1931" or 7.5 mm K.M.G. 311 (f) ??

Regards Jos

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Re: Flakbettungen with FFM

Post by Manuferey » 02 Oct 2012 01:17

Sorry, Jos. No idea.

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Re: Flakbettungen with FFM

Post by ROLAND1369 » 02 Oct 2012 15:20

Based on an examination of the rear of the breechs of the guns I would guess that these are the fortress models of the weapon M1931F. The Vehicle model M1931C has a large square attachment for mounting a shoulder rest while the fortress model has a smaller circular pipe extension in the same location. The guns in the quad mounting appear to have the same small circular extension.
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Re: Flakbettungen with FFM

Post by jopaerya » 02 Oct 2012 15:31

Thanks Roland1369

For your logical explanation and picture's , AFAIK it's also the only M.G. with the drum on the side ??

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Re: Flakbettungen with FFM

Post by ROLAND1369 » 02 Oct 2012 16:48

No, the vehicle mounted guns also used a drum feed.

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Re: Flakbettungen with FFM

Post by Grzesio » 12 Nov 2012 21:48

By the way - what are these twin MGs presented on the 1st page of this topic:

http://forum.axishistory.com/download/file.php?id=83421

They are obviously not the MG 131, MG 17 is not the perfect match too, I think.

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Re: Flakbettungen with FFM

Post by Sturm78 » 08 Mar 2013 11:52

Hi all,

I found this image on Ebay. I think 2cm Oerlikon gun on a pedestal mount.
Is this a standard AA mount or a improvisation ??

I think bulgarian crew, probably

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Re: Flakbettungen with FFM

Post by jopaerya » 08 Mar 2013 18:02

Hello Sturm78

The pedestal mount is frequently used see page 3 , 4 and other picture's in this Topic
the gun looks to me a FFM or FM Oerlikon with a extra sight .

Regards Jos

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