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Re: Eisenbahn-Batterie Gneisenau

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Post by jopaerya » 18 May 2018, 08:46

Thank you very much Jens

Great data and a new location Royan ( 30-11-1940 ) :thumbsup:

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Re: Eisenbahn-Batterie Gneisenau

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Post by Manuferey » 18 May 2018, 20:56

Approximate location around Pointe Ste-Barbe near St-Jean-de-Luz where Bttr. Gneisenau was stationed around March 1941 based on the map posted by Jos above:
Gneisenau-Pte Ste Barbe.jpg
Some old views around this location:

A view of the railroad along the coast at Pointe Ste Barbe:
AK-Ansichtskarte-Saint-Jean-de-Luz-Vue-generale-prise-de-Sainte-Barbe-Chemin-d.jpg
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A view of the golf course just north of the position (see map).
History of this golf course which was actually shut down in 1934:
https://paysbasqueavant.blogspot.com/20 ... -1900.html
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Re: Eisenbahn-Batterie Gneisenau

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Post by wimve » 18 May 2018, 22:08

Driving around with google you find a bunker at the seaside road of the botanical garden.
pointe sainte barbe-00.jpg
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Re: Eisenbahn-Batterie Gneisenau

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Post by Stp Leo » 11 Jan 2020, 23:47

Good evening everyone,

Here are 2 pictures showing Adolf Hitler visiting the battery at "La Pointe aux Oies", at the north of Wimereux (Pas-de-Calais), on December 23rd 1940 (ECPAD) :
Gneisenau Pt Oies 3 - 1.jpg
Gneisenau Pt Oies 2 - 1.jpg
In the 2nd photo background, we can see the big hostel of the place (red circle) so we can approximately say where the battery was stationned. by the way, we can see as well that a little hill made of earth was just behind the guns (created when Germans installed them)... And on a aerial picture taken in 1946 at the south of the location, there are many little hills with rectangles, as we can see for the barracks location :
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(I know we don't see very well but you can find it here : https://remonterletemps.ign.fr/telechar ... ns.4983863)

Maybe some of them are the former places for the Gneisenau guns ? Futhermore, the road you see at the left goes till the railway track for the K5 battery (Do not forget Gneisenau was a railway battery) ! What do you think ?

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Re: Eisenbahn-Batterie Gneisenau

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Post by jopaerya » 12 Jan 2020, 10:34

That is a very good option Leo

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Re: Eisenbahn-Batterie Gneisenau

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Post by Jens Andersen » 13 Jan 2020, 21:17

A few more data on the battery from German war diaries:

KTB Kübef.Westl.Ostsee, 23.8.39-30.6.40
RM 45 I/168


11.3.40 (s. 133) E-Batterie „Gneisenau“ auf Bahnhof Osterrönfeld, Ugruko Rendsburg unterstellt.


RM 45 I/64
KTB des Küstenbefehlshabers der östl. Ostsee, 1.11.1939-30.6.1942


1.12.39
Überführung und Inmarschsetzung der E.-Batterie „Gneisenau“ nach Cuxhaven an Küstenbefehlshaber Nordfriesland gem. Seekriegsleitung B.Nr. 1. Skl. I d 1389/39.

3.12.39
Küstenbefehlshaber Nordfriesland an Küstenbefehlshaber östl. Ostsee:
E.-Batterie „Gneisenau“ 3.12. -0330 Uhr – in Cuxhaven Hauptbahnhof eingetroffen. Verbleibt dort bis auf weiteres. Unterstellung unter Kdt. Abschnitt Cuchaven.
Verwaltungsmässig 4. Ers. M.A.A. Cuxhaven, Feldpostnummer 29178.


KTB Kübef. Ostpreussen 16.9.-31.10.39
RM 45 I/253


22.9.39
Die E-Batterie „Gneisenau“ wird von AOK 3 wieder zur Verfügung gestellt. Abstellung Sorgenau. Aufstellung der Üb.-Batterien „Thiele“, „Schütze“ und „Schill“ aus Beständen der Übungsbatterien unter Benutzung von Geschützen, die für Begleitschiffe vorgesehen waren.

23.9.39
1645
Ost ersucht Küstenbefehlshaber Ostpreussen um Überprüfung zwecks Einsatz E.Batterie Gneisenau zur Bekämpfung von Hela sowie Verlade- und Auslademöglichkeit mit Dampfer bzw. Fährschiff in PIllau, Danzig bezw. Gotenhafen aus zu erkunden und zu melden. Erbetene Angaben über Fährschiff folgen.

2.10.39
Die als Wachkompanien herausgezogene Batteriebesatzungen „Kurfürst“ und „Dohna“ sind marschbereit und werden auf Dampfer „Natal“ verladen.

4.10.39
Nach Abgabe der E-Batterie ”Gneisenau” und der Besatzungen ”Grosser Kurfürst“ und „Dohna“ sind nur folgende Mittelbatterien noch besetzt: „Brüsterort“ und „Yorck“. „Groeben“ ist nur bedingt gefechtsklar. Ausbildung ist erneut im Gange.

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Re: Eisenbahn-Batterie Gneisenau

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Post by Jens Andersen » 13 Jan 2020, 21:36

PG 31905 - KTB Küstenbefehlshaber Ostpreussen, 16.-31.10.1939
= RM 45 I/253 = T1022-2744

KTB E-Batterie "Gneisenau" 27.9.-12.10.1939
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Re: Eisenbahn-Batterie Gneisenau

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Post by Jens Andersen » 13 Jan 2020, 21:39

Anlage:
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Re: Eisenbahn-Batterie Gneisenau

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Post by jopaerya » 14 Jan 2020, 21:44

Thanks for sharing this information , Jens

Photo = Ebay
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Re: Eisenbahn-Batterie Gneisenau

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Post by jopaerya » 18 Feb 2020, 22:19

Looks a little bit as the same location of post 22 from Emmanuel , this one is from Ebay .

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Re: Eisenbahn-Batterie Gneisenau

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Post by moonraker » 19 Feb 2020, 00:51

hello jos,
the place of your picture is fermanville (anse de brick)

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Re: Eisenbahn-Batterie Gneisenau

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Post by Xavier » 21 Feb 2020, 21:17

what happened to it at wars end?
overrun?
blown by crews?
captured in combat?

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Re: Eisenbahn-Batterie Gneisenau

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Post by Jens Andersen » 08 Mar 2020, 09:05

One more war diary from the battery, covering 1 May to 7 June 1940.

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Post by Jens Andersen » 08 Mar 2020, 09:05

And the last page:
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Re: Eisenbahn-Batterie Gneisenau

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Post by jopaerya » 23 Mar 2020, 21:46

On this Ebay photo you can see the turret of the 15 cm S.K.L/45 of the E-Bat. Gneisenau at Sete, Regards Jos
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