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Sockellafetten Sk-L
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From books and German info I made this,
if you got more or better info pleace share it.
Sockellafette Ia für 5 cm K.w.K.39/1
Sockellafette Ib für 5 cm K.w.K.39
Sockellafette Ic für 5 cm K.w.K.39, 5 cm K.w.K. 39/1, 5 cm K.w.K. 40 and
7,5 cm K.w.K.51, 7,5 cm K.w.K.67, 7,5 cm K.w.K.68
Sockellafette Id für 7,5 cm K.w.K.67
Sockellafette IIa für 8,8 cm K.w.K.43
Sockellafette III für 7,5 cm K.w.K.42
mittl. Sockellafette IV 16 to für 10,5 cm K 331 (f)and K 338 (i), 10,5 cm K 332 (f), 10,5 cm K 335 (h),
10,5 cm K 29 (p), 10,5 cm K 35 (t), 10 cm K 17/04, 10 cm K 18 , 10,7 cm K 352 (r), 11,4 cm K 365 (e),
12 cm K 370 (b), 15,5 sFH 414 (f), 15,5 cm sFH 17 (p).
Sockellafette V ??????
schwere Sockellafette VI 32 to für 12,2 cm K 390/2 (r), 14,5 cm K 405 (f), 15 cm K 16, 15 cm K 18,
15 cm K 15/16 (t), 15,2 cm sFH 433/1 (r), 15,5 cm K 416 (f), 15,5 cm K 418 (f) , 15,5 cm K 420 (f)
15,5 cm K 425 (f), 15,5 cm K 432 (b).
schwerste Sockellafette VIII für 17 cm K 18
Regards Jos
From books and German info I made this,
if you got more or better info pleace share it.
Sockellafette Ia für 5 cm K.w.K.39/1
Sockellafette Ib für 5 cm K.w.K.39
Sockellafette Ic für 5 cm K.w.K.39, 5 cm K.w.K. 39/1, 5 cm K.w.K. 40 and
7,5 cm K.w.K.51, 7,5 cm K.w.K.67, 7,5 cm K.w.K.68
Sockellafette Id für 7,5 cm K.w.K.67
Sockellafette IIa für 8,8 cm K.w.K.43
Sockellafette III für 7,5 cm K.w.K.42
mittl. Sockellafette IV 16 to für 10,5 cm K 331 (f)and K 338 (i), 10,5 cm K 332 (f), 10,5 cm K 335 (h),
10,5 cm K 29 (p), 10,5 cm K 35 (t), 10 cm K 17/04, 10 cm K 18 , 10,7 cm K 352 (r), 11,4 cm K 365 (e),
12 cm K 370 (b), 15,5 sFH 414 (f), 15,5 cm sFH 17 (p).
Sockellafette V ??????
schwere Sockellafette VI 32 to für 12,2 cm K 390/2 (r), 14,5 cm K 405 (f), 15 cm K 16, 15 cm K 18,
15 cm K 15/16 (t), 15,2 cm sFH 433/1 (r), 15,5 cm K 416 (f), 15,5 cm K 418 (f) , 15,5 cm K 420 (f)
15,5 cm K 425 (f), 15,5 cm K 432 (b).
schwerste Sockellafette VIII für 17 cm K 18
Regards Jos
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Hi All
@ndrew the 3,7 cm K.w.K. was also used in the Panzer III ,
so I think that the 3,7 cm K.w.K. gun also used the Sk-L I.
First foto the Sockellafette IV with a 15,5 cm sFH 414 (f)
Small arms, artillery and special weapons T.Gander and P.Chamberlain
Second foto the Sockellafette VI with a 15,5 cm K 420 (f) H.K.B. Gatteville 7/1261
Nationel Archives
Third foto the Sockellafette VIII with a 17 cm K 18
Bundesarchiv
Fourth foto the Sockellafette IV with a 10,5 cm K 331 (f) H.K.B. Söndervig 5/180
Der Atlantikwall bei Ringköbing B.B.Anthonisen
The Sockellafette I for the Regelbau 704
The Sockellafette IIa for the Regelbau 703
The Sockellafette IV for the Regelbau 670 , 671 and bettungen
The Sockellafette VI for the Regelbau 678 , 679
The Sockellafette VIII for the Regelbau 689 , 690
Regards Jos
@ndrew the 3,7 cm K.w.K. was also used in the Panzer III ,
so I think that the 3,7 cm K.w.K. gun also used the Sk-L I.
First foto the Sockellafette IV with a 15,5 cm sFH 414 (f)
Small arms, artillery and special weapons T.Gander and P.Chamberlain
Second foto the Sockellafette VI with a 15,5 cm K 420 (f) H.K.B. Gatteville 7/1261
Nationel Archives
Third foto the Sockellafette VIII with a 17 cm K 18
Bundesarchiv
Fourth foto the Sockellafette IV with a 10,5 cm K 331 (f) H.K.B. Söndervig 5/180
Der Atlantikwall bei Ringköbing B.B.Anthonisen
The Sockellafette I for the Regelbau 704
The Sockellafette IIa for the Regelbau 703
The Sockellafette IV for the Regelbau 670 , 671 and bettungen
The Sockellafette VI for the Regelbau 678 , 679
The Sockellafette VIII for the Regelbau 689 , 690
Regards Jos
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@ndrew wrote:I could add those:
-According to pic below I don't see any laffete for 3,7 gun in Your list.
-7,5 gun-just to show how it looked
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@ndrew
the 7.5cm was behelfsmäßig so this means it was not a standard-design but a quickfix to make the guns ready to use in a short time.
and on the picture of the 3.7KwK i do not see any lafette just the guns.
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-what is near the top edge of the foto? Burrel of the gun?-guess no.See those pieces of trianlge steel plates welded to the laffete.Also is visible a lower part:plate with screw holes-> For me it could be a laffete.3,7 Sockellaffete.jpg
If we assume the guns and laffetten are here separated (guns could be destroyed before capitulation-common practice) then this could be earlier a quickfix (gun+laffete)-wright?
Brgds
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Aleast one battery in Norway was equipped with 10,5 cm K 335 (h) in sockel lafette.mittl. Sockellafette IV 16 to für 10,5 cm K 331 (f)and K 338 (i), 10,5 cm K 332 (f), 10,5 cm K 335 (h),
10,5 cm K 29 (p), 10,5 cm K 35 (t), 10 cm K 17/04, 10 cm K 18 , 10,7 cm K 352 (r), 11,4 cm K 365 (e),
12 cm K 370 (b), 15,5 sFH 414 (f), 15,5 cm sFH 17 (p).
During trials in May 1943, one of the barrels came loose, and were blown out of the emplacement!
Here are some remains from these days, but not connected to the accident......
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Hello All
The Sockellafette seen here above are all from the Army , does anyone
have any information about the use of Sockellafette for the Kriegmarine ?
I know one that was the M.K.B. Socoa-West with 4 x 15.5 cm K. 418 (f)
as you can see on the photo , this is not the original French lafette .
Who has information on the use of naval sockelafette for field guns ???
Photo = Bundesarchiv Koblenz
Regards Jos
The Sockellafette seen here above are all from the Army , does anyone
have any information about the use of Sockellafette for the Kriegmarine ?
I know one that was the M.K.B. Socoa-West with 4 x 15.5 cm K. 418 (f)
as you can see on the photo , this is not the original French lafette .
Who has information on the use of naval sockelafette for field guns ???
Photo = Bundesarchiv Koblenz
Regards Jos
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Jos,
I've found pictures of a 105 mm field gun - 10,5 cm K331(f) - on German naval mounts:
http://www.occupied.guernsey.net/images ... 0_5gun.jpg
Also, on page 26 of "Guns of the Atlantikwall" edited by Schiffer, there is a nice picture of another 10,5 cm K331(f) on a turn-of-the-century naval mount.
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Regarding the casemate at MKB Socoa above, it is a M170 ?
Emmanuel
I've found pictures of a 105 mm field gun - 10,5 cm K331(f) - on German naval mounts:
http://www.occupied.guernsey.net/images ... 0_5gun.jpg
Also, on page 26 of "Guns of the Atlantikwall" edited by Schiffer, there is a nice picture of another 10,5 cm K331(f) on a turn-of-the-century naval mount.
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Regarding the casemate at MKB Socoa above, it is a M170 ?
Emmanuel
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Hello Emmanuel
As Jos says:
"Most of the 10.5 cm K.331 (f) in these lafette's as on your photo at the Channel Islands were used as beach defences in "Jägerstanden " or 671 and were made
for the Army and not for the Navy ."
They were all converted from field carriages.
The only Naval Batterie was "Lothringen, Noirmont Point", please do a Forum search and a Google, I'm sure you will esily find some information.
Rgds
John Germain
As Jos says:
"Most of the 10.5 cm K.331 (f) in these lafette's as on your photo at the Channel Islands were used as beach defences in "Jägerstanden " or 671 and were made
for the Army and not for the Navy ."
They were all converted from field carriages.
The only Naval Batterie was "Lothringen, Noirmont Point", please do a Forum search and a Google, I'm sure you will esily find some information.
Rgds
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