Sockellafetten Sk-L
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List of various models of Pak guns stored for use splited to front destinations. I found it at germandocsinrussia webpage.
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Long time ago our forum's fellow @herring found in deep Poland's mainland city Sieradz (OKH Stellung b1) two pieces of Betonfundament/Bettung with unknown function then. Flak, Pak at least radar? It is quite hugh octagonal shape piece of concrete with deep holes on top for 8 bolts, placed in a circle Ø135 cm.
These fundations are placed in flat open area with natural water obstacle (brook)in front on distance of 1,5 km, swamp on one flank and anti tank ditch on rear. As a refuge for crew was Unterstand 668 build too.
Only one doubt I have - fundation is errected nearly 1 m above ground level + quite high gun lafette = little to much for AT purpose? But if we imagine it is only a part of not finished dedicated bunker emplacement Bauform 271 which should hide a gun as a small hump covered by soil, does it make a sense? What do you mean guys?
Now after long consideration and Lars Bertelsen advices I am allmost sure it is a fundation for Sockellafette IV because only this device fits to bolts measurements. As we know this device was developed for French gun mark 10,5 cm K331(f) and its international clones. It concerns Polish versions too: 10,5 cm K13(p) and 10,5 cm K29(p). This gun could provide direct aiming fire used dedicated AT Panzergranate. Shape of these fundations looks quite similar to Vejersstrand and Søndervig ones.These fundations are placed in flat open area with natural water obstacle (brook)in front on distance of 1,5 km, swamp on one flank and anti tank ditch on rear. As a refuge for crew was Unterstand 668 build too.
Only one doubt I have - fundation is errected nearly 1 m above ground level + quite high gun lafette = little to much for AT purpose? But if we imagine it is only a part of not finished dedicated bunker emplacement Bauform 271 which should hide a gun as a small hump covered by soil, does it make a sense? What do you mean guys?
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The special thing is that there are only 8 bolts placed in a circle of that size. AFAIK this fits only with the Sockellafette IV. This SKL was constructed for coastal guns, but could be useful for AT purpose as well:
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=174505
But it still seems very strange that such Sockellafetten (and Bauformen 271) were planned so far from the coast.
greetings Lars
The special thing is that there are only 8 bolts placed in a circle of that size. AFAIK this fits only with the Sockellafette IV. This SKL was constructed for coastal guns, but could be useful for AT purpose as well:
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=174505
But it still seems very strange that such Sockellafetten (and Bauformen 271) were planned so far from the coast.
greetings Lars
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Pictures from Ebay.
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stril
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Pictures from Ebay.
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stril
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Can somebody identify the gun posted by stril ??
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A 5 cm KwK 39/1 ( Bordkanone der Luftwaffe )
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Thank you, Jos.
There was a post about this gun here but no picture:
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=103077
And I found some detailed information on the BK 5 cm here:
http://www.deutscheluftwaffe.de/archiv/ ... k%205.html
Emmanuel
There was a post about this gun here but no picture:
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=103077
And I found some detailed information on the BK 5 cm here:
http://www.deutscheluftwaffe.de/archiv/ ... k%205.html
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The 5 cm KwK 39/1 and the 5 cm Bordkanone were almost identical. The latter had a different muzzle brake and no recoil guard.
Both types could be mounted in the Sockelafette Ia.
(Photos and drawing from BAMA)
greetings lars
The 5 cm KwK 39/1 and the 5 cm Bordkanone were almost identical. The latter had a different muzzle brake and no recoil guard.
Both types could be mounted in the Sockelafette Ia.
(Photos and drawing from BAMA)
greetings lars
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New picture from East - Koenigsberg area, anti tank ditch and 2 cm KwK gun on permanent mount device.
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Very nice picture Forttravel
Looks like this wooden construction http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... mpflafette
Regards Jos
Looks like this wooden construction http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... mpflafette
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Set of pictures with destroyed emplacement for Jagdpanther gun.
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A Sockellafette with a 5cm KwK lower part and a different gun?