Sockellafetten Sk-L

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Re: Sockellafetten Sk-L

Post by herring » 04 Nov 2017 18:59

And in Stettin - a Behelfslafette for 7,5cm KwK 51 L/24 found!

http://wszczecinie.pl/aktualnosci,unika ... 28762.html

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Re: Sockellafetten Sk-L

Post by Andrzej Ditrich » 04 Nov 2017 20:34

...again Szczecin! Nice relict.
It would be nice to combine this Lafette together with 7,5cm gun from "Fort Gerhard" in Świnoujście museum.

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Re: Sockellafetten Sk-L

Post by jopaerya » 05 Nov 2017 09:00

Very nice found , hope it get a got home , Regards Jos

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Re: Sockellafetten Sk-L

Post by Lars Bertelsen » 05 Nov 2017 22:52

Thanks herring for sharing. AFAIK this is the third Lafettenkreuz of this type found (Frankfurt/Oder 1990, Dresden 2001 and now Szczecin 2017), and in very good shape too. Would be a perfect match for the SK-L Ic in fort Gerhard.
I wonder if a Bettungskasten of railway sleepers is still in place under the Lafettenkreuz? (see page 7).
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Re: Sockellafetten Sk-L

Post by jopaerya » 25 Nov 2017 09:52

Hello Forttravel

Maybe the iron thing is this device ?? Looks it was also used in the H.K.B. Floröy ( 5./981 )

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Re: Sockellafetten Sk-L

Post by forttravel » 25 Nov 2017 13:04

Yes Jos, I believe this is it = Drehbettung mit Pivotzapfen und führendem Oberhaupt.
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Re: Sockellafetten Sk-L

Post by Valtoro » 30 Nov 2017 11:02

I'm still on the loookout for some detailed technical drawings with measurements of the Sockellafette IV for 10,5 cm. Surely with all those Sockellafetten used in the AW, some copies must have survived??

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Re: Sockellafetten Sk-L

Post by forttravel » 07 Apr 2018 22:19

forttravel wrote:And set of pictures of 8,8 cm KwK gun emplacement.
More pictures from that set: http://feldgrau.info/waffen/13896-na-po ... h-erzatsev

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Re: Sockellafetten Sk-L

Post by forttravel » 08 Apr 2018 20:07

Two pictures from Norway with SK-L IV with K332(f) gun.
Source: http://www.agderkultur.no/agder-ka08.2- ... /Side8.htm
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Re: Sockellafetten Sk-L

Post by forttravel » 04 Jan 2019 09:17

Lars Bertelsen wrote:
10 Nov 2015 22:53
Hello
Thanks for this great photo. It is the first picture I have seen of this type of Sockellafette.

Four installation sites are known:
Festung Pressburg: 100 3,7 cm KwK were issued in February 1945. 83 of them arrived, 76 were installed in home-made Sockellalfetten.
Festung Dresden: 14 3,7 cm KwK were issued in April 1945 (maybe some of the remaining 17 guns for Pressburg?). The 3,7 cm guns in Dresden were most likely never installed. A number (or all?) of them were buried in the ground near Dresden and were recovered in the 1980es.
Festung Swinemünde: A number of 3,7 cm KwK were delivered in April 1945. Probably never installed.
Festung Thorn: Photo. No further information.

(Source: NARA files)

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Poznań (Posen) got also 50 pieces of 3,7 cm KwK for self made of improvised carriages.
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Re: Sockellafetten Sk-L

Post by Lars Bertelsen » 06 Jan 2019 21:53

Thanks forttravel, that is interesting. Do you know if these 50 guns were actually sent to Posen and installed there, or just planned?
The photos attached were made by Wolfgang Fleischer, who led the excavation of buried KwK guns near Dresden in 1983. According to Mr. Fleischer, remains of wood were found on at least one of the recovered 3,7 cm guns. And obviously a number of steel parts for a Holzsockellafette too.
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Re: Sockellafetten Sk-L

Post by forttravel » 06 Jan 2019 22:09

Lars Bertelsen wrote:
06 Jan 2019 21:53
Thanks forttravel, that is interesting. Do you know if these 50 guns were actually sent to Posen and installed there, or just planned?
The photos attached were made by Wolfgang Fleischer, who led the excavation of buried KwK guns near Dresden in 1983. According to Mr. Fleischer, remains of wood were found on at least one of the recovered 3,7 cm guns. And obviously a number of steel parts for a Holzsockellafette too.
Greetings Lars
Hi Lars, these barrels were "weiterhin standen zum Einsatz bereit" so I believe stored somewhere in Posen, also "D.M. Werken" could be wrongly named well known Hipolit Cegielski manufacturing plant with its own weapon branch, after capture in september '39 belonged to DWM company.
Regarding to preserved in Dresden steel parts see my comparison.
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Re: Sockellafetten Sk-L

Post by Lars Bertelsen » 06 Jan 2019 22:35

Yes, the two steel parts to the right must be gun mounts for the 3,7 cm gun. I am not sure about the two other steel parts. They may belong to one of the other gun types which were found at Dresdner Heide.
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Re: Sockellafetten Sk-L

Post by Eax-E » 20 May 2020 11:40

Hello,

Some figures of the 28.11.44 planned operations to re-enforce the Westwall antitank capabilities. They really wanted to use the old fashioned 7,5 cm L/24 of the early PzIV 8O

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Re: Sockellafetten Sk-L

Post by Lars Bertelsen » 06 Jun 2020 10:16

Hello Eax-E
Thanks for the copy.
The 7,5 cm KwK L/24 was a rebored 5 cm KwK 39 L/60, not a PzIV weapon. Please see:
viewtopic.php?t=217176
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