M.K.B. Seebahnhof (Cherbourg)

[jopaerya]

Hello Etienne

You are right , the last photo is taken just after the occupation of Cherbourg
these are the French postion DCA ( Tonneville ???), but these guns are used
in the M.K.B.Seebahnhof .

Regards Jos

[moonraker]

hi jos,
I look at all my pictures of meadows, but I can not find this location.
Will not:
Tonneville (hamlet langlois) wn 274
Flottemanville wn? ? ? Not code
Gabriel moor wn 243 st
Sideville (Mountains) wn? ? ? ? Not code

Throughout his positions on almost the same bunker to put some flak difference can not be confused.

I think the position now disappeared

regard etienne

[jopaerya]

Hello All

Here a other photo of the 7.5 cm French flakgun .

Photo = Ebay.usa

Regards Jos

[moonraker]

hi jos,
this battery in place "flottemanville hague" ..

[Manuferey]

So it was a French "DCA" battery that was then reused by the Germans ? Did the Germans removed the 75 guns to place them at the "Gare Maritime" ("in German Seebahnhof") and replace them by 88 Flak ?

Emmanuel

[jopaerya]

Hi Etienne

Thanks for the place of the gun , for Emmanuel I don't know if the German troops
used the 7.5 cm French flak as Flakdefence for Cherbourg , if you see the uniforms they don't look to be Luftwaffe troops .

Regards Jos

[jopaerya]

Hello All

I found in a document the name 7.5 cm S.K.L/50 C 22 (f) could this be the name for this gun ?

Regards Jos

[Manuferey]

The French Navy used 75 mm Mle 1922, 1924 and 1927 with a bore length of 3.75 m for AA purposes (e.g. on aircraft carrier Bearn, battleship Bretagne, ...).

If we use the definition L = bore length (in mm)/caliber (in mm), we'll find ... 50 !

And if we consider the Mle 1922, that would make sense of the SK L/50 C22 (f) designation.

But I haven't been able yet to find any close picture of these French Navy 75 mm AA guns to compare.

Emmanuel

[jopaerya]

Hello Emmanuel

Here a drawing of the 75 mm CA Mle 1922 .

Drawing = Naval Weapons W.W.2 from J .Campbell

Regards Jos

[Manuferey]

Thanks Jos. Do you think it's the same gun as at MKB Seebahnhof ?

The recoil tube on top looks the same but it's not obvious for the rear.

Emmanuel

[jopaerya]

Hello All

Here a picture of the gun with the breech of the gun .

Photo = Ebay.de

Regards Jos

[jopaerya]

Hello

Here some more picture's of the guns like in M.K.B. Seebahnhof .

Photo's = Ebay.usa

Regards Jos

[moonraker]

hello jos,
I think the two picture taken is a "flotemanville" the flak batterie ...

[s.pak]

ok, but where is flotemanville on a map ?
and on the 2 last photos (the first is mine)this is one gun used by germans soldiers (7.5cm SK L/50 C22 (f) ?) or one french gun (exact name ??) just before his capture by germans soldiers ???
thanks patrick

[Manuferey]

Flottemanville is located west of Cherbourg. The complete name is actually “Flottemanville-Hague”.

The last 2 pictures seem to show a gun after its capture by the Germans in late June 1940. A gun in use by the Germans would have a more complete crew besides the three guys here (including the one that takes the picture) and with a less “touristic” look.

The French designation was “Canon de 75 mm CA (= Contre-Avions i.e. Anti-Aircraft) Modèle (in short “Mle”) 1922” (ou 1924 ou 1927, not sure which one here).

Emmanuel