French 155 GPFT used by German troops

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French 155 GPFT used by German troops

Post by Quepwik53 » 17 Nov 2005 11:34

I know that the german army have used the french 155 GPFT in North Africa but maybe in others country !

I'm searching for some photography of that please and the name of the units?

Thank you for your help !

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Post by David Lehmann » 17 Nov 2005 20:22

Hello,

I have only 2 photos of the 155mm GPFT used by the Germans on my HD, and both display the gun in Africa ... I don't know which are the units using it.
I can send you the photos if you want but that will not really answer your question.

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Post by jopaerya » 17 Nov 2005 20:34

Hi All

On 01-03-1944 there were still 22
15,5 cm K. 419 (f) in service in the
German army .

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Post by David Lehmann » 17 Nov 2005 21:35

Hello,

That's quite a good achivement since there were only 24 of these guns in the French army in 1940.
The 155mpm GPFT (Touzard carriage = version with 4 pneumatics) of the 155mm GPF) was one of the most modern French guns in 1940 with the 105mm L Schneider Mle1936. This gun was towed by the Laffly S35T truck.

Canon de 155 mm GPFT L/38 (Grande Puissance FILLIOUX – Touzard carriage)
Type : field gun
Crew : 10 men
Caliber : 155mm
Weight in action : 12200 kg
Elevation : 0° to +39°
Traverse : 60°
Rate of fire : 2-3 rpm
HE Shell
Maximum range : 21000 m
Projectile weight : 43 - 45 kg
V° : 735 m/s

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Post by jopaerya » 17 Nov 2005 21:45

Hi David

Late 1944 50 ? carriages of Canon de 155 mm GPF-T were
used to carry the 12,8 cm and named 12,8 cm K.81/1 .

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Post by David Lehmann » 17 Nov 2005 22:39

Hi Jos,

Well I don't know exactly then ... what is sure is that only 24 of these guns were mobilized/on active duty in May-June 1940.
Were more of these guns available somewhere, or just carriages for a future transformation of GPF in GPFT ? Did the production run under German occupation ? I don't know.

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Post by jopaerya » 19 Nov 2005 09:57

Hello David

I think that you are right , maybe the
guns (or carriage) were kept in production
during the occupation .

Regards Jos

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Post by Quepwik53 » 21 Nov 2005 11:03

merci DAVID !!!

On participe sur le même forum de Minitracks !!!!

Tu connais donc mon mail si tu peux m'envoyer les photos !

merci

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Post by jopaerya » 05 Dec 2007 15:50

Hello All

Here a other photo of the 15.5 cm K. 419 (f) in a H.K.B. ,
it's a little croudy on the Drehlaffete with the 4 wheels .
Looks like in the Mediterranean area .

Photo = Ebay.de

Regards Jos
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Post by Manuferey » 05 Dec 2007 18:08

I doubt that the Germans would have diverted valuable resources (steel, …) to maintain production of the GPF-T guns in occupied French factories. They had production lines in occupied France for instance for trucks (e.g. Renault), liaison aircraft (Me 108) and some aircraft engines.

It is more probable that there were several GPF-T carriages in various steps of production, some even already finished but not delivered to front-line units, and it could explain the possible 50 units.

Does anybody know the quantities of GPF-T ordered by the French Army and/or the production rate until June 1940 ?

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Post by ducatim901 » 05 Dec 2007 18:09

The carriages were used by the Germans on the 12.8cm Pak.
If the carriages were produced during the war is a mystery to me.
I do not think a lot of the 12.8cm Pak were made during the war.
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Post by C.GILLONO » 06 Dec 2007 19:46

There is one preserved in the Rovereto Museum (North Italy).
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Post by 20P7 » 06 Dec 2007 21:28

Hello guys,

this one is preserved at the museum fo the french amry artillery in southern france.

Greetings

Daniel
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Re: French 155 GPFT used by German troops

Post by jopaerya » 15 Mar 2008 20:42

Hello All

Here a other picture of the 15.5 cm K. 419 (f) in Afrika .

Photo = Ebay.de

Regards Jos
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Re: French 155 GPFT used by German troops

Post by dimi_labada » 15 Mar 2008 22:56

...and another one (OK actually two... couldn't resist...)

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