24cm K3 Heavy Gun

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Re: 24cm K3 Heavy Gun

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Post by Sturm78 » 23 Nov 2019, 16:42

Hi all,

Two images from Ebay of a gun with barrel blown. According to photo caption, in Russia, near Leningrad.

Does somebody konw any aditional information about the operational use of these guns during WW2 ?

According to the information on the net, this gun was use first with I./Art-Ret.84. 4 were in service when Germany invaded Poland, assigned to the first 2 batteries of I./AR 84. In the Battle of France the battalion still only had 4 guns. By Operation Barbarossa all three batteries were equipped with two guns apiece and were assigned to Army Group Centre. This situation did not change for the next two years... :?

Is evident that at least a gun was lost by premature explosion during 1941-42-43--- :? in North Front, near Leningrad...??

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Re: 24cm K3 Heavy Gun

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Post by schwarzermai » 23 Nov 2019, 17:53

Sturm78 wrote:
23 Nov 2019, 16:42
This situation did not change for the next two years... :?
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Hello Sturm, in my book to the 84er units you will find more informations ...

13.3.1942 – Notiz im Tagebuch des Stoart Heeresgruppe Nord - „Meldung des Rohrzerspringers K 3 bei s. Art. Abt. I./84.“

13.3.1942 - Note in the diary of the Stoart Army Group North - "Report of the Rohrzerspringer K 3 at s. Art. Abt. I./84. "

(barrel detonation)

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Re: 24cm K3 Heavy Gun

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Post by Sturm78 » 23 Nov 2019, 19:30

Thanks, Uwe... :wink:

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Re: 24cm K3 Heavy Gun

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Post by schwarzermai » 17 Dec 2019, 14:48

schwarzermai wrote:
23 Nov 2019, 17:53

13.3.1942 – Notiz im Tagebuch des Stoart Heeresgruppe Nord - „Meldung des Rohrzerspringers K 3 bei s. Art. Abt. I./84.“

13.3.1942 - Note in the diary of the Stoart Army Group North - "Report of the Rohrzerspringer K 3 at s. Art. Abt. I./84. "

(barrel detonation)

Uwe

Hello at all,

at Poland campaign I./84 lost 2 x K 3 at 13th Sep 1939 - each 1 gun of 1st and 2nd battery

so maybe these photos were made in 1939

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Re: 24cm K3 Heavy Gun

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Post by Manuferey » 22 Dec 2019, 21:47

We discussed the loss of two 24 cm K3 in September 1939 here:
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Post by schwarzermai » 23 Dec 2019, 21:48

ok, thanks Emmanuel - i'll place the infos in these thread too

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Re: 24cm K3 Heavy Gun

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Post by Sturm78 » 21 Nov 2020, 14:22

Hi all,

I found these two blurry images on Ebay. According to photo caption, near Calais, France

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Re: 24cm K3 Heavy Gun

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Post by Sturm78 » 07 Dec 2020, 12:54

Hi all,

24cm Kanone 3 ammunition. Note the splined shell. It seeems that these shells required a special 8 groove barrel....
Does somebody know the German designation for this shell ?

According to Ian Hogg the standard shell was the Gr.35

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Re: 24cm K3 Heavy Gun

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Post by schwarzermai » 08 Dec 2020, 09:30

Hello Sturm,

i think the designation is "mit Führungsrippen" (with guided rips)

i never saw it for K3, just for K5 only.

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Re: 24cm K3 Heavy Gun

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Post by Sturm78 » 08 Dec 2020, 12:38

Hi Uwe,

I suppose you mean 24cm Gr.35 mit Führungsrippen, is it not ?

Here, another blurry image of these shells (from Ebay)

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Re: 24cm K3 Heavy Gun

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Post by schwarzermai » 08 Dec 2020, 12:52

Sturm78 wrote:
08 Dec 2020, 12:38
Hi Uwe,

I suppose you mean 24cm Gr.35 mit Führungsrippen, is it not ?

Here, another blurry image of these shells (from Ebay)

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Hello Sturm, yes, i mean these designation. I never saw these shells for K3 yet.
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Re: 24cm K3 Heavy Gun

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Post by Sturm78 » 15 Dec 2020, 22:40

Hi all,

Another image from Ebay. According to photo caption, near Rostov, Russia

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Re: 24cm K3 Heavy Gun

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Post by Sturm78 » 21 Feb 2021, 22:04

Hi all,

An image from Ebay. Again you can see one ot these splined shells (24cm Gr.35 mit Führungsrippen)

If we stick to the wartime photos, these projectiles seem to be the most commonly used in this gun...
Note, also, the huge size of the cartridge...

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24cm K3 ammunition (24cm Gr.35 mit Führungsrippen) and soldiers in field1.jpg

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