Armament of tobruks

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Re: Armament of tobruks

Post by stril » 22 Apr 2008 11:37

Hello
added a picture of something that looks "homemade" cant be a standard item this one.
Any idea what this have been used for + Mg or mortar ?
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Re: Armament of tobruks

Post by jopaerya » 24 Apr 2008 19:38

Hello Stril

I have looked everywhere but could not find anything like this , must be from early of the war
when you see the wast of steel . My 2 cents is that it would be for a 5 cm le. Gr.W. 36 because
also on the device ( Gerät 964 P7 ) the loading of the mortar was on the side .

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P.S. was this Tobrukform only in your area or used in whole Norway ??

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Re: Armament of tobruks

Post by stril » 25 Apr 2008 08:12

Hello Jos
Thank you for your reply. Your suggestion of a 5 cm le. Gr.W. 36 could be right. Another one is close by, but this one is for mg, and have no steel.
P.S. was this Tobrukform only in your area or used in whole Norway ??

This is the only one i have seen of this kind. Perhaps using the term tobruk is wrong, as this one have no entrance. You have to enter it from the top :-)
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Re: Armament of tobruks

Post by jopaerya » 26 Apr 2008 09:01

Hello All

Gerät Nr 944 S6 = M.G.'s
Gerät Nr 950 S6 = 5 cm Fest Gr.W. 201 (f)
Gerät Nr 960 S6 = M.G.'s
Gerät Nr 963 S6 = 5 cm Gr.W. 36
Gerät Nr 964 S7 = 5 cm Gr.W. 36
Gerät Nr 967 S7 = fur Schernfernrohrbehalter
Gerät Nr 968 S7 = fur Lichtsprechgerät
Gerät Nr 969 S7 = Sneeaufsatz
Gerät Nr 971 S7 = Fuhrungsscheine ?
Gerät Nr 972 S7 = same topform of Ringstand of wood
Gerät Nr 974 S7 = 8 cm Gr.W. 34
Gerät Nr 977 S8 = 8 cm Gr.W. 34
Gerät Nr 978 S8 = 8 cm Gr.W. 34

Please note also the number behind the S could this be just like the panzerparts a code for the year ??

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Re: Armament of tobruks

Post by jopaerya » 05 Aug 2009 08:53

Hello

This is not a tobruk , but a open emplacement but a very nice frame work on a pivot for a M.G. lafette in Norway .

Photo = Koa from Kystfort Forum

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Re: Armament of tobruks

Post by jopaerya » 26 Oct 2011 19:20

Hello

Found this link on a other Forum http://www.bunkerfotos.nl/622vandel1.htm
On a 622 at the airfield Vandel ( Denmark) you can see this m.g. lafette in the tobruk
as you can see on the photo this lafette was taken from a airplane .

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Re: Armament of tobruks

Post by TUS » 26 Oct 2011 20:25

Nice photo Jos

Actually all 3 622 at Vandel was equipped with this type of MG lafette. One of them was removed by the owner some years ago. (Saddly he didn't know the historical value)
The other two can still be found on their respective Tobruks.
In addition to this, severeal of the areas 58c's were also equipped with this kind of MG lafette

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Re: Armament of tobruks

Post by jopaerya » 27 Oct 2011 09:41

Thanks Tønnes

I hope the MG Lafette will be protected against thiefs ( collectors ) maybe something for the museums in Denmark ?

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Re: Armament of tobruks

Post by Valtoro » 27 Mar 2013 20:59

Fornebu Airfield in 1945 or 1946. From https://www.facebook.com/groups/fornebu ... ts&fref=ts
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Re: Armament of tobruks

Post by TUS » 27 Mar 2013 21:16

Very nice shot Tormod! Thanks for sharing.
Do you know what type of bunker it is??

Have a nice Easter everyone

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Re: Armament of tobruks

Post by Valtoro » 29 Apr 2013 23:27

Hello Tønnes, sorry about the late reply. Judging from the visible interior, it doesen't look like a standard Rs.

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Re: Armament of tobruks

Post by jopaerya » 18 Jul 2015 09:47

I have a question about this document of the 945S6 the header text does not correspondent with the drawing ,
does somebody has a other drawing of this 945S6 ( M.G. Ausleger f.M.G. 34/42 im grossen Ringstand ) ??

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Re: Armament of tobruks

Post by forttravel » 15 Jan 2016 19:22

Not armament but armour. East front version of Tobruk bunker with aditional bases for armoured (бронекрышку - steel plate?) roof/lid.
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Re: Armament of tobruks

Post by dirk Peeters » 15 Jan 2016 20:10

thanks

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Re: Armament of tobruks

Post by forttravel » 20 Mar 2016 23:24

Document concerning use of own and captured l&hmg's on ringstand 80 cm bunker type. NARA T-78/R-774
Pictures of mg30(p) in ringstands I posted here:
http://forum.axishistory.com/download/f ... &mode=view
http://forum.axishistory.com/download/f ... &mode=view
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