Unknown Ringstand.

[AW]

Hi,
if this is BRV 39
the position looks like a "Vorgeschobender Beobachter" (scout/spotter)
where are the other ones?
greetz
Alex

[stril]

Hi all, what about this tobruk for observation?

There is a similar bunker up here in my area. Perhpas time to get som pictures and measurments of it and post it her
regards
stril

[der bunkermann]

Hi stril, that's interesting... do you have divisionartillery nearby that tobruk?

Alex, indeed nr. 39... i don't have the situationmap here but i assume it's situated on the first dunerow?

gr, tim

[AW]

... safely,rearward into the WN,
but I think on a high position...

greetz
Alex

[der bunkermann]

hi alex,
it the roundabout on your drawing is the same as the one today it's indeed on a high dune

[AW]

yep... and before they build the parking it shout have been higher

Alex

[stril]

do you have divisionartillery nearby that tobruk?

No divisionsartillery, but in fact 2 X HKB was at the site for more than a year in preliminary positions.
On a map i found the site marked with the sign as seen below. There is nothing else besides the ringstand on that site, but im not sure if the sign is for the ringstand.
Ill get som pictures tomorow.
regards
stril

Added the sign found on map

[stril]

Hello
Added some older photos of the ringstand mentioned earlier in the tread.
regards
stril

[jopaerya]

HI Strill

That is a very nice and unknown tobruk to me , i can't place the tactical sign yet .

Regards Jos

[SES]

Hi stril,
Thanks for sharing. The sign is unknown to me as well, a WAG for the Ringstand is a SMG, a WpG or a small searchlight.
bregds
SES

[jopaerya]

This is the only thing that I could find, what comes the closest to your sign .

Regards Jos

[SES]

Could it be for a 5 cm mortar which could fire a star shell?
bregds
SES

[jopaerya]

F.P. means Feste Punkt ( fix points ) so it must be part of a German minefieldmap , this could be the tobruk
or something else that could also explains the tactical sign ?? For the tobruk that is a other quistion , but the
search is on .

Regards Jos

[SES]

Just a thought. A tripwire along the boundary of a minefield, that would trigger a flare is not an uncommon configuration.
bregds
SES

[AW]

do you have divisionartillery nearby that tobruk?

No divisionsartillery, but in fact 2 X HKB was at the site for more than a year in preliminary positions.
On a map i found the site marked with the sign as seen below. There is nothing else besides the ringstand on that site, but im not sure if the sign is for the ringstand.
Ill get som pictures tomorow.
regards
stril

Added the sign found on map

Hi Stril,

where in N is the Tobruk build?

greetz

Alex