Unknown Ringstand.

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Re: Unknown Ringstand.

Post by AW » 01 Jul 2012 17:35

Hi,
if this is BRV 39
the position looks like a "Vorgeschobender Beobachter" (scout/spotter)
where are the other ones?
greetz
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Re: Unknown Ringstand.

Post by stril » 01 Jul 2012 17:37

Hi all, what about this tobruk for observation?
There is a similar bunker up here in my area. Perhpas time to get som pictures and measurments of it and post it her :-)
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Re: Unknown Ringstand.

Post by der bunkermann » 01 Jul 2012 18:11

Hi stril, that's interesting... do you have divisionartillery nearby that tobruk?

Alex, indeed nr. 39... i don't have the situationmap here but i assume it's situated on the first dunerow?

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Re: Unknown Ringstand.

Post by AW » 01 Jul 2012 18:32

... safely,rearward into the WN,
but I think on a high position...

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Re: Unknown Ringstand.

Post by der bunkermann » 01 Jul 2012 18:41

hi alex,
it the roundabout on your drawing is the same as the one today it's indeed on a high dune :)

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Re: Unknown Ringstand.

Post by AW » 01 Jul 2012 18:49

yep... and before they build the parking it shout have been higher :)

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Re: Unknown Ringstand.

Post by stril » 01 Jul 2012 19:36

do you have divisionartillery nearby that tobruk?
No divisionsartillery, but in fact 2 X HKB was at the site for more than a year in preliminary positions.
On a map i found the site marked with the sign as seen below. There is nothing else besides the ringstand on that site, but im not sure if the sign is for the ringstand.
Ill get som pictures tomorow.
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Added the sign found on map

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Re: Unknown Ringstand.

Post by stril » 09 Sep 2012 14:50

Hello
Added some older photos of the ringstand mentioned earlier in the tread.
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Re: Unknown Ringstand.

Post by jopaerya » 09 Sep 2012 17:20

HI Strill

That is a very nice and unknown tobruk to me 8O 8O , i can't place the tactical sign yet .

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Re: Unknown Ringstand.

Post by SES » 09 Sep 2012 17:48

Hi stril,
Thanks for sharing. The sign is unknown to me as well, a WAG for the Ringstand is a SMG, a WpG or a small searchlight.
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Re: Unknown Ringstand.

Post by jopaerya » 09 Sep 2012 18:38

This is the only thing that I could find, what comes the closest to your sign .

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Re: Unknown Ringstand.

Post by SES » 10 Sep 2012 07:16

Could it be for a 5 cm mortar which could fire a star shell?
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Re: Unknown Ringstand.

Post by jopaerya » 10 Sep 2012 17:52

F.P. means Feste Punkt ( fix points ) so it must be part of a German minefieldmap , this could be the tobruk
or something else that could also explains the tactical sign ?? For the tobruk that is a other quistion , but the
search is on .

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Re: Unknown Ringstand.

Post by SES » 10 Sep 2012 17:58

Just a thought. A tripwire along the boundary of a minefield, that would trigger a flare is not an uncommon configuration.
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Re: Unknown Ringstand.

Post by AW » 15 Sep 2012 17:05

stril wrote:
do you have divisionartillery nearby that tobruk?
No divisionsartillery, but in fact 2 X HKB was at the site for more than a year in preliminary positions.
On a map i found the site marked with the sign as seen below. There is nothing else besides the ringstand on that site, but im not sure if the sign is for the ringstand.
Ill get som pictures tomorow.
regards
stril

Added the sign found on map
Hi Stril,

where in N is the Tobruk build?

greetz

Alex

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