Stg 44 with IR equipment in action
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Stg 44 with IR equipment in action
Hello!
I am interested in information about the use of IR(Stg 44 with Zielgerat 1229 Vampir) equipment in the war?
Best regards.
I am interested in information about the use of IR(Stg 44 with Zielgerat 1229 Vampir) equipment in the war?
Best regards.
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Re: Stg 44 with IR equipment in action
A most rare implement indeed. Never made it past prototype testing stage but showed much promise. It was awkward and heavy as well as being limited in range. There are rumors that a very few made it into the fighting but nothing has ever been established. Only a few photos showing a British soldier posing with it remain. There may be one in some private collection somewhere, but it has never showed up publically. Reenactors using one would look ridiculous and out of place.
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Do a search for Vampir and Nachtjager on here for more info.
Darvis, you never answered my post on mg42.us about the internal mechanics of the Stg44.
Darvis, you never answered my post on mg42.us about the internal mechanics of the Stg44.
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Actually I did answer that post. The mechanism is too complex to describe even with pictures. There are several interlocks that 1) prevent the hammer from being released without the bolt being completely in battery, and 2) interlock of the selector switch that holds the disconnector in such a way that full auto fire is possible. I do not have pictures that can properly describe how the parts interact. A 3-d model of all the parts (animated) is necessary to convey the info you want.
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That's why I posted some 3d renders of the area. I was hoping maybe you could throw them into windows paint or photoshop and do a quick label of the areas you are talking about.A 3-d model of all the parts (animated) is necessary to convey the info you want.
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Here is a photo of the bildwandler rifle sight, lamp and reflector and the secondary battery in a gas mask canister:
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What is Missing on this picture is the Infraredfilterglas of the Lamp.
I used a later Modell of this, in the mid 80s with Hk G3 (a later Stug45).
I used a later Modell of this, in the mid 80s with Hk G3 (a later Stug45).
Re: Stg 44 with IR equipment in action
AFAIK it was used alongside IR equipped Panthers during the defence of Berlin by the Panzer Division Müncheberg. StG44 equipped soldiers would ride on the tanks during the night.
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Do you know how to get in touch with Clive Elliot? This is an exceptional picture and I'd like to ask him couple of questions.Brian Bedwell wrote:Here is a photo of the bildwandler rifle sight, lamp and reflector and the secondary battery in a gas mask canister:
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Sorry Jacek, I only heard of this guy from the article I found somewhere online.
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ZG 1229 Vampir scope at the WTS Museum in Koblenz:
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THAT IS AMAZING PICTURE!!!Brian Bedwell wrote:ZG 1229 Vampir scope at the WTS Museum in Koblenz:
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Jacek, I felt the same way when I found this photo on Flicker of all places.dect wrote:THAT IS AMAZING PICTURE!!!Brian Bedwell wrote:ZG 1229 Vampir scope at the WTS Museum in Koblenz:
If anybody lives near Koblenz or plans to go there in the future, I would be very grateful if they could get some more photos of this.
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Sorry for necroing the thread; but what is that sticking out on the side of the sight? A connector for wiring/power cord?
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Exactly.Thranx20 wrote:Sorry for necroing the thread; but what is that sticking out on the side of the sight? A connector for wiring/power cord?