German MGs Id

[Sturm78]

Hi all,

Can anybody help me to Id. these german MGs. I think these weapons are aerial MGs modified for ground use, but I am not expert in small arms:
Images from Ebay:

Image 1: Probably MG13 but I am not sure
Image 2: MG15, MG17 ??

Regards Sturm78

[audrew]

mg 13 image1, image2 mg13 mit dreibein aa

[Sturm78]

Thank you very much for your answer,audrew.

The muzzle looks different.

Regards Sturm78

[peeved]

The muzzle looks different.

Hi Sturm,

The top two MG 13s have the normal flash hider while the bottom feeder has a blank-firing device fitted.

Markus

[Sturm78]

Thank you very much for your help, Markus.

Sturm78

[Sturm78]

Hi all,

Can anybody Id. this german MGs?

Image 1: I think a 7.92mm MG08 but with a tripod mount instead of sled mount and rare flash hider
Image 2: I think a 7.92mm MG08/15 with front bipod, but I am not sure
Image 3: I think a 7.92mm MG08/15 but I am not sure

Images from Ebay
Regards Sturm78

[Sturm78]

Nobody??

Well, Here I put another picture. Perhaps 7.92mm MG08/15 ??

Image form Ebay
Thanks in advance. Sturm78

[The Edge]

All LMG photos are MG-08/15.

MMG photo is a problem. DMW-made Maxim 08s for export (labelled M.09) were made with such tripods - captured MG is an option, but not likely one. There was also a German tripod, issued as the dreifuss 16 (literally "three foot" or tripod), an alternate standard mount for the MG08 (see: http://www.armeetpassion.com/mg08.html#haut )
It seems that this (posed) photo is taken after the flash-hider is taken and blank firing attachment not placed yet.

[Sturm78]

Thank you very much for your answer, The Edge.

All LMG photos are MG-08/15.

Are you sure my first image posted on 22 Dec 2009 (.92mm MG on tripod.jpg ) is a 7.92mm MG08/15?
This MG have not the typical wooden shoulder stock and the pistol grip with trigger installed at the bottom of the receiver of the MG08/15.

Was the standard bipod of MG08/15 mid-mounted or front-mounted?

Here another picture of a 7.92mm MG08/15 MG in service with the Wehrmacht.

Regards Sturm78

[The Edge]

Thank you very much for your answer, The Edge.

All LMG photos are MG-08/15.

Are you sure my first image posted on 22 Dec 2009 (.92mm MG on tripod.jpg ) is a 7.92mm MG08/15?

I have spoken about tripod-mounted gun as "MMG" (So, it is MG-08 medium machine gun. )
Just be aware not to call it MG-08/16 (because of "M.08" tripod) because there was MG-08/16 "univerzal" machine gun, not put in production (but M.16 tripod - designed for it - was later used for basic MG-08)

Standard bipod of MG08/15 in WW1 was mid-mounted; I'm not sure about Interwar or WW2 use.

[Sturm78]

Thank you very much again, The Edge.

What was the difference between Dreifuss 16 tripod for MG08, the tripod developed for MG16 and the tripod for MG09?

Regards Sturm78

[The Edge]

What was the difference between Dreifuss 16 tripod for MG08, the tripod developed for MG16 and the tripod for MG09?

Dreifuss 16 tripod developed for MG-08/16 was later used for MG-08, only "the MG08 had a slightly different mounting system than the MG-08/16, and therefore required an adapter to be used on the tripod."

Earalier commercial DMW Maxim mounts were more solid & less advanced (not adjustable length of tripod legs)
Examples: (Maybe you could spot something more - at Midnight time my eyes are little "spent" )
1) DMW M.02 (commercial photo)
2) DMW M.09 Paraguayo (Cal. 7.65x53mm)
3) Montenegrin DMW M.1912 (Cal. 7.62x54mmR)

[Sturm78]

Thank you for your info, The Edge, and sorry for delay.

Can anyone identify this machine-gun?

Image from Ebay
Regards Sturm78

[The Edge]

Not again the vz. 30 / MG30(t) aircraft machine gun?

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... start=1395

< my quote when I saw it - again - at "Small Arms Quiz" ; also appropriate for the same photo >
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... start=2445

[Sturm78]

Oooppppssss. I am sorry, The Edge. I have too much information without order in my computer.

I have two other interesting images yet (from Ebay):

Image 1: I think 7.92mm MG13 almost certain. I need confirmation.
Image 2: MG34 without doubt, but with a rare front tripod and middle bipod also coupled.

Regards Sturm78