German MGs Id

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Re: German MGs Id

Post by Sturm78 » 14 Jul 2010 10:22

Hi all,

I need help with this captured MG:

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Re: German MGs Id

Post by Sturm78 » 29 Jul 2010 13:50

Nobody for my last images?? :(

Well, Here a nice image of a 7.92mm MG13 on AA tripod:

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Re: German MGs Id

Post by Kocur » 29 Jul 2010 18:17

Sturm78 wrote:Nobody for my last images?? :(
Perhaps two at top of the page are too much of a surprise :wink: I mean where the heck could Germans capture .50 M1921 hmg? More seriously, it is probably Colt's commercial Model 1924 (not a US Army designation) and even more probably it's a later gun known by Colt's designation of MG 52. These could be captured in Belgium, Norway or Netherlands

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Re: German MGs Id

Post by Sturm78 » 30 Jul 2010 13:41

Thank you very much for your answer, Kocur.

I have been looking for information/images of Colt commercial Model1924 (MG52) in Internet, but without success. :(

I guess it will be a modification of the Browning model 12.7mm M1921, no? Have you more information about this weapon? What countries bought this model? Belgium, Netherlands and Norway?

In this link http://hem.fyristorg.com/robertm/norge/ ... apons.html, this weapon is not mentioned in service with the Norwegian army. :?

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Re: German MGs Id

Post by Kocur » 30 Jul 2010 14:31

Sturm78 wrote:I guess it will be a modification of the Browning model 12.7mm M1921, no?
Yes, it was and in following variants also included later features known from M2. Colt's commercial air-cooled aircraft guns were called MG 53.
Sturm78 wrote: Have you more information about this weapon? What countries bought this model? Belgium, Netherlands and Norway?[]

In this link http://hem.fyristorg.com/robertm/norge/ ... apons.html, this weapon is not mentioned in service with the Norwegian army. :?
According to Collector Grade's book on .50 Browning machine gun, Netherlands bought 56 "water cooled" guns from FN in 1938 and 20 more for their navy in 1939. If I understand correctly, also in 1939 Netherlands ordered 40 more from Colt, although sales went via FN (more guns were bought for Dutch colonies, but I don't suppose those were delivered to Europe). Norway bought 14 MG 52s in 1939 from FN and then ordered 47 more from Colt, those (all of them?) were delivered via FN in 1940.

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Re: German MGs Id

Post by Sturm78 » 31 Jul 2010 10:41

Thank you, Kocur

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Re: German MGs Id

Post by Sturm78 » 18 Aug 2010 10:36

Hi all,

Can somebody identify this MG?

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Re: German MGs Id

Post by Kocur » 18 Aug 2010 10:57

I think it's Polish wz. 30 mmg (ckm wz. 30).

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Re: German MGs Id

Post by Sturm78 » 19 Aug 2010 18:12

Uhmmm....?? It is possible but this MG appears to have a long tubular butt. :?

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Re: German MGs Id

Post by Kocur » 19 Aug 2010 18:52

Ckm wz. 30 did have such :) It was a part of "AA kit", along with ring-and-bead sight and a mast (which was part of infantry tripods wz. 30 and wz. 34 and cavalry tripod wz. 36). You'll find some pics of them here.

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Re: German MGs Id

Post by Sturm78 » 20 Aug 2010 09:58

Thank you very much, Kocur. :D

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Re: German MGs Id

Post by Sturm78 » 20 Aug 2010 21:02

Any ideas?

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Re: German MGs Id

Post by Kocur » 20 Aug 2010 21:25

It's some aircraft Vickers-type gun (note the outside mounted return spring), perhaps Czechoslovak vz. 30?

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Re: German MGs Id

Post by peeved » 20 Aug 2010 21:30

Hi Sturm,
It looks like an aircraft Vickers, possibly of Czech manufacture. Not dissimilar to the MG 30 (t) at http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... s#p1090988 but probably with spade grips hidden by one of the soldiers.
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Re: German MGs Id

Post by Sturm78 » 21 Aug 2010 10:25

Thank you for your help, Kocur and Markus. :D

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