very strange submachinegun: late WW2 prototype?

bluered12 · Post by **bluered12** » 01 Mar 2003 15:10

The gun likes like a marriage between a MP43 and a MP40:
http://www.securityarms.com/20010315/ga ... 00/359.htm

Has anyone ever seen this smg before?

Juha Tompuri · Post by **Juha Tompuri** » 01 Mar 2003 15:15

Haven´t seen before, but a neat thing.

Regards, Juha

Korbius · Post by **Korbius** » 01 Mar 2003 16:37

It looks very similar to the AK family.

Daniel L · Post by **Daniel L** » 01 Mar 2003 16:43

I can't see it.

Best regards/ Daniel

Christian Ankerstjerne · Post by **Christian Ankerstjerne** » 01 Mar 2003 17:01

You need to have Java enabled, since the entire image has been made as a Javascript! (these guys are paranoid...)

Christian

Redbaron1908 · Post by **Redbaron1908** » 01 Mar 2003 17:04

the gun looks were modern though i never seen it before

Xnomad · Post by **Xnomad** » 01 Mar 2003 23:24

I have java enabled and still can't see it, anyone else having trouble?

Xnomad · Post by **Xnomad** » 01 Mar 2003 23:32

Got it to work on my other machine so I'll have to figure what's wrong on this one.

Why is it labled SMG? When it's chambered for the 7.92 x 33 Kurz round surely it's an assault carbine or was it the German designation before the word Sturmgewehr was used?

T.R.Searle · Post by **T.R.Searle** » 01 Mar 2003 23:32

I wonder if it ever had anything to do with the modern HK53 series... http://www.hkpro.com/hk53.htm

T.R.Searle

aardvark · Post by **aardvark** » 02 Mar 2003 00:00

That gun is up for Auction in the US.It is listed as a gun brought back by a GI at the end of WW II. The seller clames that it is a one of a kind German prototype. The seller clames that it is unknow since the vet who brought it back didn't show it to anyone. It is a very interesting gun and if it is real it will sell for a very good price.

varjag · Post by **varjag** » 02 Mar 2003 13:07

A totally unknown SMG? One that the gun-writers and researchers have missed for six decades? And brought back by a GI who was too shy to EVER show it to anyone?
Come on fellas, pull the other one. America - the Land of Unknown Guns. But of well-known gun-shysters! This is a fake.

Fred · Post by **Fred** » 02 Mar 2003 15:02

I can't see it.

Me too

aardvark · Post by **aardvark** » 02 Mar 2003 16:28

The seller calls the gun a Sturmgewher 45. For a late war prototype it has a very good finish and looks to have some MP40 parts in it. The reluctance of the GI to show it may have to do with the fact that it was forbiden to bring such[full auto] weapons back. The GI supposedly registered it later with the ATF{a class 3 firearm,which makes it legal to buy by another class 3 holder}.As for it being real or fake I don't know,it look a little too well finished for a late war prototype.It also look a little like a Yugo m56[a MP40 mutant]. It is always possiable that it is real . By the way Var I remenber that some Aussie was trying to sell " Hitler's Pistol " a few years ago,that was a fake , so there are gun shysters everywhere.

Marcus · Post by **Marcus** » 02 Mar 2003 16:35

Here it is for those of you who can't see it:

Daniel L · Post by **Daniel L** » 02 Mar 2003 16:48

Thanks Marcus! I think it looks suspicious.

Best regards/ Daniel

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