Walter Model Pistol

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Walter Model Pistol

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Post by von thoma » 07 Jul 2016, 09:08

Do you know what kind of weapon, is worn by Walter Model, in this little holster ?
Or maybe isn't a pistol holster ?
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Re: Walter Model Pistol

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Post by Poot » 08 Jul 2016, 08:35

I don't know what it is for, but it looks nothing like a pistol holster, especially for anything carried by as high a ranking General as Model. The position (just above the hip and to the side of the spine) is one of the WORST places to carry anything unyielding like a pistol. Don't ask me how I know...
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Re: Walter Model Pistol

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Post by Knouterer » 05 Sep 2016, 14:39

In the German army, as in many other armies, general officers who did not expect to use their handguns in earnest and only carried them as a "badge of authority" often equipped themselves with light and compact 6,35 mm pistols.
Since those pistols and holsters were normally privately purchased, it could be any of several dozen different German, Czech, Belgian, French, Italian etc. models.
The holster does look rather shapeless, but that was not unusual, see for example this one for a FN M1906:

https://www.waffengebraucht.at/waffen/p ... en--245164
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Re: Walter Model Pistol

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Post by Gustav_SC » 11 Oct 2016, 20:13

I'm also guessing some sort of very small .25cal / 6.35mm pistol.

Reasons:
-a pistol is what you would expect to be carried, it's the most logical thing
-the "big caliber = macho" thing wasn't a factor then, carrying tiny small caliber pistols for senior officers was common
-holsters then were often full flap with that sort of buckle
-what else would it be? a compass, a case for his spectacles...nothing else makes sense

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Re: Walter Model Pistol

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Post by Scorpio » 30 Oct 2016, 10:29

Many high german staff officiers carried the Walther PP or PPK (in cal. 6,35 mm). They're also like the Mauser 08 and the Walther P38 official used pistols of the Wehrmacht, but only by officiers.
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Re: Walter Model Pistol

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Post by emount » 18 Feb 2017, 01:59

Hello, I am new to this Forum. I have found many interesting threads so far. This Thread showing General Model's small holster is of special interest to me because I collect vest pocket pistols and I have a number of military style holsters with tiny pistols similar to the one in the picture.

The Walther Model 9 was the smallest 6.35mm pistol and it was very popular. I am posting a picture to show just how small the Walther Model 9 is. Also, I have posted a picture with four Walther Model 9 pistols along with original military style holsters similar to the one General Model is wearing in the picture.

Thanks for letting me share.
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Re: Walter Model Pistol

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Post by Knouterer » 20 Feb 2017, 11:19

A Walther Model 9 certainly seems a possibility. Model's holster is too small for a Walther PPK or similar sized pistol. Compare to the M1935 holster worn by the Hungarian officer in the background which is much larger, but still holds nothing bigger than a .32/.380 pistol, most likely (Frommer Stop, Model 1929, Model 1937).
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Re: Walter Model Pistol

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Post by Knouterer » 20 Feb 2017, 11:32

When Model committed suicide on 21 April 1945, in a wood near Duisburg, he used a 6.35 mm pistol, apparently:
http://www.lokalkompass.de/duisburg/pol ... 37336.html
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Re: Walter Model Pistol

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Post by von thoma » 04 Mar 2017, 19:31

Another picture of the little holster.
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