Belarusian landing battalion "Dalvitz" unknown weapon

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Belarusian landing battalion "Dalvitz" unknown weapon

Post by crx1991 » 24 Aug 2019 20:26

Hello ! What could it be in Northern Belarus? The saboteur camp was liquidated in 1946.
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Re: Belarusian landing battalion "Dalvitz" unknown weapon

Post by peeved » 24 Aug 2019 20:34

Gustloff Volkssturmgewehr VG.1-5

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Post by kfbr392 » 24 Aug 2019 20:56

pictures 3&4 show a Gustloff Volkssturmgewehr VG.1-5 and a MG42

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Re: Belarusian landing battalion "Dalvitz" unknown weapon

Post by crx1991 » 24 Aug 2019 21:13

Sorry for the translation friends! But how could this rifle be in Belarus? This violates all the data on the year of release, and why saboteurs need such a weapon. which was intended for civilians

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Re: Belarusian landing battalion "Dalvitz" unknown weapon

Post by Hisname » 25 Aug 2019 05:14

Judging by the depth and position, the weapon was buried no more than 20-30 years ago. And the military operations of WW 2 has nothing to do.
This is either a weapon from the museum or military trophies that someone hid for a long time at home, and then decided to bury in the forest.
In addition, it is necessary to clean and inspect all weapons. Perhaps it is deactivated, malfunctioning or lacking in the main parts.
It will also help to understand the origin.
It is possible that these are very good copies (museum, homemade, theatrical, cinematic).
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Weapons lost during hostilities are currently at a depth of more than 120 centimeters. And naturally, the wooden parts are never preserved.
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Post by crx1991 » 25 Aug 2019 07:56

I saw this rifle after being put in order. It is really in good condition, and its original coating remains. If this is a copy, then how can it work? There is a video of testing an American prototype where a shot is fired not from a manual position but from a stand. I would not dare to shoot from something suspicious. Nobody would dig a meter and why? The tree is really well preserved; there are such soils in the forests that objects from the first world war are in excellent condition.

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Re: Belarusian landing battalion "Dalvitz" unknown weapon

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Post by Hisname » 25 Aug 2019 08:46

What proof do you have that this is the original?
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Re: Belarusian landing battalion "Dalvitz" unknown weapon

Post by AllenM » 14 Sep 2019 20:58

It is a sad fact that certain relic weapons are copied for sale as originals.

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Post by Hisname » 15 Sep 2019 09:38

You are right .... everything that is in demand is always faked. You need to try to buy rare items in trusted auctions and proven trading floors.
There are many historical organizations that conduct an examination for authenticity. In Russia and Belarus, there are no such organizations. And to prove the authenticity of everything that is sold there is impossible. Organizations themselves exist, but they do not have legal status, their conclusions are often erroneous and contradict each other. In Ukraine, things are a little better, for ordinary collectibles you can get a certificate. And for rare things, it will be the same lottery.
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Re: Belarusian landing battalion "Dalvitz" unknown weapon

Post by crx1991 » 31 Oct 2019 21:43

I have such a fake carbine! Automation is stable last week checked. The problem with finding a short store I'm sorry for the bad English
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