Japanese Sword Scabbard?
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Japanese Sword Scabbard?
Can anyone enlighten me on this sword scabbard? I think it may be copper? Is that a mum on it? Could it be for a WW2 ceremonial sword of some description? Thanks
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Re: Japanese Sword Scabbard?
IMHO
Oriental but not Japanese, perhaps China
Oriental but not Japanese, perhaps China
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Re: Japanese Sword Scabbard?
The "Chrysanthemum" symbol, which is to see on the saber scabbard is of typical japanese origin.
To difficult to fake/reproduce nowadays...
This much I recognize, for example, there are many Japanese sabers of the former Japanese police of the time online, with comparable saber scabbards, but unfortunately not in this particular form.
This is a question for the experts on Japanese blank weapons, a better answer will be found here in the thread at a later date very surely....
P.S. The difference between an Epee (G: "Degen"), and a Saber / Sabre (G: "Säbel") should of course be known...
If not, open the "Big Book"...
Btw, "China" is complete nonsense!
Hans
To difficult to fake/reproduce nowadays...
This much I recognize, for example, there are many Japanese sabers of the former Japanese police of the time online, with comparable saber scabbards, but unfortunately not in this particular form.
This is a question for the experts on Japanese blank weapons, a better answer will be found here in the thread at a later date very surely....
P.S. The difference between an Epee (G: "Degen"), and a Saber / Sabre (G: "Säbel") should of course be known...
If not, open the "Big Book"...
Btw, "China" is complete nonsense!
Hans
The paradise of the successful lends itself perfectly to a hell for the unsuccessful. (Bertold Brecht on Hollywood)
Re: Japanese Sword Scabbard?
Have to correct, sorry: Japanese police blank weapons were decorated trad, with a cherry blossom (Kirschblüte) symbol.
Also please look at attached photo (file size compressed)
The scabbard with two rings has a comparable form to the scabbard in the above uploaded photos.
Hans
Also please look at attached photo (file size compressed)
The scabbard with two rings has a comparable form to the scabbard in the above uploaded photos.
Hans
The paradise of the successful lends itself perfectly to a hell for the unsuccessful. (Bertold Brecht on Hollywood)
Re: Japanese Sword Scabbard?
Not quite Hans1906Btw, "China" is complete nonsense!
I discarded Japan for thinking that this flower, it wasn't exactly ' the Japanese cherry blossom '
present in some Japanese daggers, sabers, swords, because that flower is always represented with 5 petals without ray ring.
The shown flower has exactly 6 petals wrapped in a radiant ring.
The carving work on the sword scabbard seems excessive to me for a Japanese sword /saber,
and also the low position of the suspension rings.
I reiterate the idea that it is of oriental origin, but not Japanese ( China, Philippines, Malaysia, Thailand, India )
Yes, I also think of the XIX century.Any idea of the era? 19th century, perhaps?
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Sorry to Herr von thoma for my term "nonsense", I was wrong using this term, sorry.
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Re: Japanese Sword Scabbard?
I believe it is Chinese as well- the flower is very similar to that found on WWII-era tortoise shell Chinese Army daggers.
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Dwight, thanks for your reply, always very interesting to hear the opinion of other readers...
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Re: Japanese Sword Scabbard?
Thanks for the information gentlemen