(Grease Gun)

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Re: (Grease Gun)

Post by LineDoggie » 01 Oct 2021 23:51

Hans1906 wrote:
01 Oct 2021 15:36
Thank you also for the interesting photos of the Beretta MPs in German hands before 1945.

We didn't shoot the one or two Beretta MPs of a German collector friend back in the late 1970s, for our own safety, we didn't trust that material.
Maybe it was better that way.

Beretta 38/44 and MP41 Comparison


Liste der Handwaffen der Wehrmacht https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_der ... _Wehrmacht


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Then clearly you dont know about quality and safety of firearms

the Beretta M1938 and its derivatives were better made with higher quality materials than the MP38/40 series

The West German BGS used versions until the 1960's but didnt use the MP 38/40. Oddly no West German Police or military used MP38/40 after 1945


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Re: (Grease Gun)

Post by Poot » 02 Oct 2021 02:07

Hans, who was the 'expert' who proclaimed that those SMGs were flawed/garbage/unsafe? For your own good, I'd look for informed opinions where informed opinions exist - among actual end users and people who have used and shot them.

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Re: (Grease Gun)

Post by Hans1906 » 02 Oct 2021 21:46

I was talking about the late 1970s, and that was a long time ago.
There wasn't this present-day knowledge back then, and no one even dreamed of an Internet.
We were simply afraid to shoot with the Berreta MPs.

And no, the real "experts", that was not us young men.
The real "experts" were the veterans of the Wehrmacht, the fathers and grandfathers.


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Re: (Grease Gun)

Post by EKB » 05 Oct 2021 11:44

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U.S. paratrooper with M3 SMG on Horse copy.jpg
U.S. paratrooper Ardennes with M3 SMG and BAR.jpg
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Re: (Grease Gun)

Post by Poot » 07 Oct 2021 18:00

Here's another 'Gun Jesus' video on the M3, this time with an early suppressor developed for use by OSS and SOE agents:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hNLrDbw8nc
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Re: (Grease Gun)

Post by yantaylor » 22 Oct 2021 21:05

That last photo looks like a scene from a movie.

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Re: (Grease Gun)

Post by EKB » 21 Nov 2021 05:33

Some of the photographers on duty in the Ardennes were professionals ...
US paratroopers Ardennes 01.jpg
US paratroopers Ardennes 02.jpg
US paratroopers Ardennes 03.jpg

Some lesser known camera shots by professionals are here:

https://www.gunboards.com/threads/u-s-1 ... st-9455991
https://www.gunboards.com/threads/germa ... st-9442319
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