8mm MG 17 in ground role?

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8mm MG 17 in ground role?

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Post by kfbr392 » 11 Oct 2021, 08:30

There are many pictures of the MG 15 converted to the ground role on the internet, as well as videos on YT, but few pictures of the MG 17.

In a different thread, forum member Tony Williams wrote this:
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03 Oct 2021, 14:16
For example, the 7.9mm MG 17 mounted in the cowling of single-engined fighters was synchronised by means of an electrical firing system. It could therefore be described as "electric firing" but this is misleading. What happens in this case is that the synchro system sends an electrical impulse to a solenoid on the gun, which results in the firing pin being released to run forward and strike the percussion primer. The system is therefore electrically synchronised but percussion primed. In the ground role, a mechanical trigger replaces the solenoid and the gun can fire without needing a supply of electricity.
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In Waffen Arsenal 166, I found these pictures:

From the German description text it appears that these MG17 were converted to fully mechanic operation only, i.e. no electric bolt release.

Any other pictures or info of MG 17 in the ground role?
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Re: 8mm MG 17 in ground role?

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Post by Tony Williams » 11 Oct 2021, 11:43

One point of detail concerning the MG 17 is that during the war the gun was modified to take high-pressure v-munition cartridges in order to improve the performance. The guns thereafter did not function reliably with ordinary ammunition. So it would be necessary to ensure that the appropriate ammunition was available.
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MG 15 also adapted for 8x57 “-v-“ ammo?

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Post by kfbr392 » 08 May 2023, 18:33

Tony Williams wrote:
11 Oct 2021, 11:43
One point of detail concerning the MG 17 is that during the war the gun was modified to take high-pressure v-munition cartridges in order to improve the performance. The guns thereafter did not function reliably with ordinary ammunition. So it would be necessary to ensure that the appropriate ammunition was available.
Tony, were aircraft mounted MG 15 also adapted to the increased pressure 8x57 “-v-“ ammo? If yes, how frequently?

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