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here is the fun excersise...

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Post by Oleg Grigoryev » 08 Aug 2003, 09:30

Try to name all the MGs in the picture
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Post by Robert Rojas » 08 Aug 2003, 09:56

Greetings to both citizen Oleg and the community as a whole. In regards to your challenge as expressed on Friday - August 08, 2003 - 8:30am, yours truly is at a loss for the proper identity of the vintage ordnance in your photograph. Unfortunately for old Uncle Bob, all of my infantry weapon references are in storage along with a myriad of other historical works. However, a number of the weapons "appear" to be from the Czarist era and a few from the Soviet era. Apart from that "brilliant" observation of mine, I have been wondering how water cooled machine guns operated when the air temperature fell below zero degrees centigrade OR thirty two degrees Fahrenheit. It's just something to ponder. Well, that's my two kopecks on the subject. As always, I would like to bid you a wonderful day over in the Motherland.

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Uncle Bob 8)


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Post by Lawrence Tandy » 08 Aug 2003, 10:09

I would hazard to guess that the gun closest to front on the extreme left is a Maxim. 3rd from left a Vickers or Browning water cooled, and the one to the far right looks like a Hotchkiss,? Not sure.
Tough quiz!

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Post by TonyG » 08 Aug 2003, 12:57

Here's my stab at this

From left to right

Vickers .303 GB

Browning Model 1917 USA

Vickers-Maxim .303 GB

Saint-Etienne Modele 1907 France

Maxim 1908-15 (MG08) Germany

Hotchkiss Modele 1914 France

and the one in front

Schwarzlose Maschinegewher Modell 08 Austria-Hungary

There is also one on the far right, but not enough for me to guess on

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Post by gabriel pagliarani » 08 Aug 2003, 14:20

TonyG wrote:Here's my stab at this

From left to right

Vickers .303 GB

Browning Model 1917 USA

Vickers-Maxim .303 GB

Saint-Etienne Modele 1907 France

Maxim 1908-15 (MG08) Germany

Hotchkiss Modele 1914 France

and the one in front

Schwarzlose Maschinegewher Modell 08 Austria-Hungary

There is also one on the far right, but not enough for me to guess on

Cheers

Tony
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Post by Ike_FI » 08 Aug 2003, 15:44

Robert Rojas wrote:Apart from that "brilliant" observation of mine, I have been wondering how water cooled machine guns operated when the air temperature fell below zero degrees centigrade OR thirty two degrees Fahrenheit.
I know that some Maxims (/clones) were modified by Finns by making a hatch into the barrel mantle so snow could be inserted for cooling instead of water. What it comes to keeping liquid coolants liquid, I assume similar chemicals that are used in car radiators during the wintertime would do the trick.

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Post by ChristopherPerrien » 08 Aug 2003, 18:28

I see 5 Maxims and a Hotchkiss

The tallest one (#4 French 1907 St Etienne? if Gabriel got it right) got me as it looks almost like a FN/Mag or Czech ZB progenitor, differences being the barrel jacket and/or the strange gas cylinder design.

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Post by Ike_FI » 08 Aug 2003, 20:35

More Maxims (Russian and Finnish variants):
http://www.ankkurinvarsi.net/jaeger/MG1.htm
- thanks to JTV for earlier link tip

During my time in the army, I participated a shooting excercise where some older grunts also had a chance to fire the "old stuff" including Maxim - being a rookie by then I was just assigned to load the belts!

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