MP-43/44

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Post by Gundam » 09 Dec 2003, 00:41

Hi...

Thanks all for the photos.... thanks a lot!!! This forum is wonderfull!

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Post by Erik E » 09 Dec 2003, 00:59

FG-42 and prototypes in Wts Koblenz!

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Post by Sander D » 09 Dec 2003, 01:13

I understand your problem Erik
but if you download it and post it here without remembering where you got it, you could certainly do the same on 10 other forums.
I keep a eye on 30 forums,but the Third reich forum is the only form where you can attach pictures in you post,for me it's the one and only one.
The problems start when people download original photos and repost them without source.....
That's a tricky guestion,and it heapen on most of the forums.
How can someone give credit to a picture,if the man who posted it,didden't post the credit of that picture.
If your intention for downloading is to use them online again
If i can help someone out with a picture,i bring them online,i'm not the only one who do this, but i bring them not all online ,that's not mine intention,that's a line i will not pass.


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Post by Erik E » 09 Dec 2003, 01:27

Hello again Sander!

As I said, really no problem for me, but where should the line go?
Maybe some other member would take it much worse if it was his photo!?

I have no problems sharing photos. I guess I have posted 500+ photos during my time here. If I wanted to keep them for myself, I would have added a copy protection text or something.
I have never turned down any requests for photos, and you can find them spread on loads of web-pages, magazines and books.
The only difference is that I said it was ok!

I think if you want to use someones photos, you should ask for permission, or atleast add source or link. This is my oppinion, and others may not agree. Anyway, I would like to add that the law of copyright does also exsist on the www

Erik

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Ammos for Mkb 42

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Post by MK108 » 09 Dec 2003, 22:56

Cheers, Dan
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#21

Post by Flammenwerfer » 11 Dec 2003, 23:46

Anyone know when the StG44 first saw action? Did it see action in Normandy 1944?

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Post by LegalAssassin » 13 Dec 2003, 17:37

Not really.

It was issued in late 44, to normal troops that is.

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Post by David Lehmann » 13 Dec 2003, 18:48

Yes AFAIK it has been used in Normandy but no unit or single squad was totally equiped with Stg44 ... some NCOs had it etc.

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@ Erik E

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Post by General Patton » 15 Dec 2003, 22:05

@ Erik E

What is the gun in the middle of your pic with the FG-42 at the bottom. I once saw it in a book called "Great Weapons of World War Two", and a GI was holding it, and they called it an FG-42, but I thought it looked smaller, had the bipod in the middle of the gun, had more metal, adn a different muzzle. Can you, or anyone else, enlighten me to what kind of gun it is, and if it was ever used, what kind of ammo it used (A short Smk round like the FG-42, or a long like Kar-98, or other), and anything elese about. Thanks in advance


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Post by Javichu » 15 Dec 2003, 22:38

Does somebody know how was Krummlauf 90º aimed?I mean that Krummlauf for armored vehicles as seen in Erik´s picture.
What device was used? An episcope? Direct sights? Has anybody a better picture of the mount ?From above?(I mean the ball in which the barrel was mounted...Kügelblende? :? )
Thanks a lot

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Post by Xavier » 15 Dec 2003, 22:40

small periscope, is hiden in the picture I think, because in some illustrations I have seen is to the left of the gun.

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Post by Erik E » 15 Dec 2003, 23:31

What is the gun in the middle of your pic with the FG-42 at the bottom
They are both FG42`s!, but different manufacturers.
I guess they used the same ammunition and had similar performance......But I really know little technical information about them.

Erik

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Post by Jack Nisley » 16 Dec 2003, 17:06

For Erik E. and General Patton:

The middle gun in the picture is the frst model of the FG 42. After about 1700 had been made, supplies of manganese steel alloy used in its manufacture became in critical short supply. The FG 42 was redesigned to use carbon steel. The second model FG 42, (bottom of the picture) was basically all new design, longer and heavier than first model, using the same operating principle and the same bayonet. Total production of FG 42 was about 7,000 rifles.

Info from "Guns of the Reich" by Markham, "Weapons of the Third Reich" by Gander and Chamberlain, "Small Arms of the World" by Smith.

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Post by Uninen » 23 Feb 2004, 00:46

Ive read somewhere that Yugoslavian paratroopers actually used MP 44 / Stg 44 untill 1983, does anybody know that is this true?

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Post by Panzerphile » 27 Feb 2004, 14:37

Does anyone have plans or schematics of the MP 43, 44, 45 family they could share? I need some pretty accurate drawings to model a fullscale MP rifle apon. The real thing is a bit scarce in Australia. Will pay for copying and shipping if necessary
All help greatly appreciated.

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