Walther PPK RZM 7.65

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Walther PPK RZM 7.65

Post by Banderhof » 03 Jan 2006 23:11

I just came into possession of a Walther PPK RZM 7.65 I know very little about pistols but have been surfing the web and I see I may have a great find. Trying now to find the history if it, but hard to do when both owners of it have passed away Father and Uncle. also looking for some kind of value on it for insurance purpose SN is 8302XX

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Re: Walther PPK RZM 7.65

Post by varjag » 04 Jan 2006 12:40

Banderhof wrote:I just came into possession of a Walther PPK RZM 7.65 I know very little about pistols but have been surfing the web and I see I may have a great find. Trying now to find the history if it, but hard to do when both owners of it have passed away Father and Uncle. also looking for some kind of value on it for insurance purpose SN is 8302XX


A world authority on Walther pistols is 'Mr P.38'. If u send me a PM - I'll give u his
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walther ppk rzm

Post by michael jackass » 04 Jan 2006 14:03

PPK's that were marked RZM are very rare and were for the National-Sozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, better known as the NSDAP, or Nazi Party. They were marked for the purchasing branch who procured equipment and materials for the Third Reich. In German this was the Reichzeugmeisterei. These RZM marked examples were only issued to high ranking nazi party officials. :) :) hope this helps.

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Post by jacobtowne » 04 Jan 2006 15:35

Any photos? Sounds like a beauty. Here'a a forum address that may be useful. There are others, such as Jan Still's Luger Board.

http://www.p38forum.com/
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walther PPK RZM

Post by Banderhof » 05 Jan 2006 03:42

Try another pic try.

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Post by KC » 05 Jan 2006 15:41

Walther was the famous German arms company that provided pistols for the German army.

Just FYI, James Bond's gun is Walther PPK.

There are silencers made specially for PPK, but I don't think you could get them anywhere.

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Post by ramon » 11 Jan 2006 12:12

Condition is very important in judging the value of this pistol.

A mint or near mint pistol will fetch in the neighborhood of 2500 USD. An average condition RZM will still easily fetch north of 1000 USD.

Remove the slide of your pistol and see if the last 3 digits of the serial number are scratched into the inside of the slide. Look carefully. The numbers must be there.

What magazine is with the pistol? Does it have the finger extention?

I look forward to seeing pictures of your pistol.

Here is a picture of one of mine.

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Picture

Post by Banderhof » 20 Jan 2006 23:11

I'm hoping this picture comes through

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Post by JoeW » 23 Jan 2006 05:29

The NSDAP contracted with Waffenfabrik Walther to produce PPKs for the party organizations. The initial large portion of this contract bore the acceptance mark of the Reichszeugmeisterei-RZM. The contract with RZM markings began in mid 1934 but the marking was removed in 1936. The pistols were available to all Politischen Leiters at a group discount price, not just senior officials. There were strict regulations as to which rank Political Leaders could carry their pistols with certain uniforms.

There is evidence that some of the RZM marked PPKs were also purchased by the Sicherheits Hauptamt of the SS for issue to members of the Sicherheitspolizei units and the SD. These weapons apparently were serially numbered after market on the slide underneath the muzzle.

It is very difficult to determine the history of the non-SS RZM marked pistols other than to give an approximate date of production. I would estimate the pistol returned by your relatives was made in 1935. I think the value Ramon provided for you is generally accurate. I would greatly appreciate it if you would provide me via PM the entire serial number for our data base. Thanks.

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Post by ramon » 25 Jan 2006 16:20

Here is a close of the RZM logo on the PPK slide.

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Post by ErichS » 28 Jan 2006 15:33

Here is my PPK RZM. Serial # 8248xx. Produced in about 1934.

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Post by Texas PPK » 17 Jan 2008 01:27

I have a Walther PPK RZM just like the one ramon has posted in the picture. I got it from my uncle. He said that he took it off a German officer when they captured a bridge in WWII. I have the gun and holster with 2 magazines. One magazine is in the holster and one in the gun. It only has very light holster wear near the muzzle.

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Post by Texas PPK » 17 Jan 2008 01:28

I forgot. The serial number on mine is 830907.

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Re: Walther PPK RZM 7.65

Post by Edmond Ramey » 10 Aug 2011 19:22

I HAVE A WALTHER PPK. RZM. SN.840XXX. WITH ONE MAG. AND ORIGINAL HOLSTER.WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHEN IT WAS MADE ? WHAT IT;S WORTH?ABOUT 90. TO 95. % LITTLE HOLSTER WEAR. ON MUZZLE

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Re: Walther PPK RZM 7.65

Post by JoeW » 11 Aug 2011 05:05

Late 1934 to mid 1935. Production records did not survive; only estimates from collectors. Holster original to the gun? It is numbered to it? If not, it is an original period holster perhaps but no way to directly connect it to the gun. 90-95% with muzzle wear? $2250-2500.
Holster value depends on condition, maker and markings. If a PL holster with eagle on the flap, worth good money.

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