The Flying Circus

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Post by Mike K. » 20 Dec 2002, 18:45

Anyone else a fan of the famous Richthofen Squadron and the Red Baron himself? :)

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Post by Damian Andrews » 07 Jan 2003, 02:06

YES ! :) :D :wink:


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Post by Nagelfar » 07 Jan 2003, 02:13

what can you say? legends are legends :)

My question is, was it really that he was so good? or was it that fliers were such a new thing in military that everyone else was bad and he was, by today's standards, average? :P

I mean, could I have shot him down in one flight with my video game simulation experience? :D

..it makes you wonder

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Post by Damian Andrews » 07 Jan 2003, 02:28

Yes,he was that good.You don't survive all those battles and shoot down 80 enemy aircraft just by being lucky! :roll:

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Post by Galahad » 07 Jan 2003, 02:33

Agreed, he was good.....very good. But he was also lucky, until his luck ran out. Talk with anyone--ANYONE--who has been in combat and he'll tell you that the major factor in surviving combat, from a firefight to a war, is luck.
It doesn't matter how good you are, but how lucky you are.

If you're unlucky, then someone shooting at you from 800 yards away can get lucky and put a bullet through your heart, like the Aussie gunner did with the Red Baron. An improbable shot, but it happened.

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Post by Benoit Douville » 13 Jan 2003, 04:11

Of course, he is a legend. 80+victories is astonishing!
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Post by Dennis Redler » 08 Feb 2003, 14:21

Here are some souvenir fabric pieces taken from the Baron's triplane by Australian soldiers. The pictures come from a Butterfields auction catalog featuring the items from the late Norm Flayderman collection. The auction was held in Nov. 2000.
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Post by Dennis Redler » 16 Feb 2003, 13:01

This is one of the Baron's victory cups that went up for auction at Butterfields in Nov.2000. It was in the late Norm Flayderman's collection.
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Post by Dennis Redler » 16 Feb 2003, 13:07

From Butterfields auction of Norm Flaydermans aviation collection in Nov.2000 was this group of original German WW1 aviators helmets.
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Post by Damian Andrews » 20 Feb 2003, 02:58

Where did he get the "victoy cup" from,I though the Reds got them all at the end of WWII.

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Post by Dennis Redler » 22 Feb 2003, 00:22

Yes, that's the story I heard too. In fact , the cups have not been seen since 1945. It's a mystery to me how one ended up in an American's collection. :?
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Post by CHRISCHA » 22 Feb 2003, 15:37

Dennis, do you know how much these peices went for? Regards Chris.

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Post by Blue max » 09 Apr 2003, 11:40

Here, Here! Sign me up! I love the whole "Knights of air" aspect of this period. It was the last hurrah for that time when 2 aviators combat each other till one them has his guns jam or run out of ammo, and instead of raking the now unarmed target they would salute a worthy combatant.
Have you ever seen the movie "Blue Max" (Where I derive my hande and avitar) the theme song and music by Jerry Goldsmith is absolutely beautiful and it's a terrific story.

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Post by Blue max » 09 Apr 2003, 11:44

Here is a Poster from that movie
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Post by Eismeer » 18 Apr 2003, 22:23

Thats a great movie, saw it last year... :)

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