German uniforms of WWI

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German uniforms of WWI

Post by Ruhrpottpreusse » 07 Jul 2008 19:38

If anyone has questions about german uniforms or needs help to identify those on photographs, post it here.
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Post by shellym » 18 Jul 2008 01:55

Hello Generalstab,

My name is Michelle Manea (Abel). I am piecing together the history of my family in Germany. Attached is a photograph of my great grandfather Ferdinand Paul Hecht b. 4.8.1876 in Költschen Kreis Oststernberg (Pommern). All I know is he fought the British invasion and nothing else. Does his uniform give you any clues as to which part of the army he belonged to?

Looking forward to your reply

Michelle
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Post by Chris Dale » 09 Sep 2008 00:04

Hi Michelle,

The photo is very interesting. Thanks for posting it.

The first notable point is that he is a qualified marksman or gunner. This is shown by the lanyard from his right shoulder.

The steel helmet shows that this photograph was taken in the latter part fo the First World War as they were only issued from 1916 onwards.

As to his arm of service, his cuffs are of a style known as Swedish. These do not define him as belonging to one particular arm of service but were worn by many arms of service.

Do you have any other photos of him? Any photos showing the shoulder straps clearly would define his arm of service more clearly.

I hope that helps in some way.

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Re: German uniforms of WWI

Post by shellym » 15 Oct 2008 10:38

Chris,

Apologies for such a long delay in replying. Thank you for your insight into the uniform. Any information is extremely appreciated. Unfortunately this is the only photograph I have.

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Post by Zoring » 04 Nov 2008 07:12

Here you go. Great Grandfather. Hans Warncke.
He was from Schleswig-Holstein, do you know what state that was in relation to buckles, tri-colours and all that? Also what colour any bayonet knot (or other regimental colours) would have been in for the 163rd Infantarie?
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Post by shellym » 06 Apr 2009 13:06

Delayed thanks and apologies for not thanking you online.

Since your post I have been searching for further photographs without success. I would love to find out more about where he served and with whom.

The only clue I have is that I was told he fought the invasion of the British and with it the ANZACS. This is information is vague and sketchy at best.

Thanks again. It is a start.

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Post by Chris Dale » 06 Apr 2009 15:22

Zoring wrote:Here you go. Great Grandfather. Hans Warncke.
He was from Schleswig-Holstein, do you know what state that was in relation to buckles, tri-colours and all that? Also what colour any bayonet knot (or other regimental colours) would have been in for the 163rd Infantarie?
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Schleswig-Holstien counted as part of Prussia for cockades, helmet eagles, buckles etc...
Bayonet knots were coloured according to which company the soldier was in within the regiment, not by regiment. Yes indeed the 163rd was from Schleswig-Holstein, its title was the "Schleswig-Holsteinisches Infanterie-Regt. Nr.163".
I hope that helps, thanks for sharing the photo with us.

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Post by Chris Dale » 06 Apr 2009 15:30

shellym wrote:
The only clue I have is that I was told he fought the invasion of the British and with it the ANZACS. This is information is vague and sketchy at best.
I'm assuming you mean he was part of the Gallipoli campaign in Turkey? He may well have been part of the Pioneer compnay that served there. They are mentioned here- http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 99&start=0 Another of our members Bob Lembke had family in that unit, he may well be able to help you find out more.

The photo, you posted here however is taken later in the war as steel helmets were not in use on the German/Turkish side during the Gallipoli campaign.

I hope that helps.
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Post by norwoodcj » 25 Sep 2009 18:44

Can anyone identify this German uniform? This is my grandmother's brother and photo is dated 1916! I'm trying to figure out his unit.

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Re: German uniforms of WWI

Post by Peter H » 26 Sep 2009 12:01

Can't see it. :(

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Post by norwoodcj » 29 Sep 2009 22:11

Can anyone identify this German uniform? The photograph is dated 1915 and is of my grandmother's brother!
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Re: German uniforms of WWI

Post by Peter H » 30 Sep 2009 10:40

Hi

The S on his collar stands for Schneeschuh,four battalions with the Alpenkorps in 1915:
http://www.austro-hungarian-army.co.uk/alpkorps.htm

The Kaiser reviews ski troops,note the distinct cap worn

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Post by norwoodcj » 30 Sep 2009 18:59

Peter ... I am so grateful for your reply. The information is invaluable to me. I didn't know where to start to look for identity of the uniform - especially since I can't read or write German! Thank You! Carol

Now, I have two more photos of the same man. Are the uniforms similar?
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Post by norwoodcj » 30 Sep 2009 19:01

And ... this is dated 1917. Unfortunately, Walter Hermann Simon died during the Champagne in 1917.
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Re: German uniforms of WWI

Post by Peter H » 30 Sep 2009 23:27

Hi Carol

Glad to be of some help. :)

The second photo looks to me like he was still with the Schneeschuh.Note mountain boots and leggings still being worn.All the Alpenkorp's ski battalions were consolidated into the 3 Jäger Regiment in 1916 and it formed part of the new 200 Infantry Division raised in July 1916.

The third photo looks entirely different,out of ski service.The 200th Division neither served in France nor the Champagne sector in 1917.It was a mountain trained division and served in the East,and Italy in that year.However it did serve in Picardy,the Marne in 1918.

Did he transfer to the air service in 1917?Or he might have transferred to another infantry unit or was in a staff position?The nice cut of his uniform and boots also might indicate an officer rank.I'd be curious to see a close up of the badge on his jacket.It might be an aviator badge of some sort.My bet is that he was in the Air Service by then,pilot or observer,with an aspirant rank.

Was he Bavarian or from Prussia?Bavarian records on WW1 service can be easily obtained I think.

Some nice Ski troop photos can also be found here,a 2 page thread:
http://lagrandeguerre.cultureforum.net/ ... t19852.htm

/Peter

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