The Imperial German Kurassier Regiments

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The Imperial German Kurassier Regiments

Post by ckleisch » 09 Mar 2003 00:05

For those interested in military modeling and history in general:
After, the prussian miltary debacle of 1806 only four of thirteen regiments survived. It was not until 1819 that the Kurasser regiments were reformedinto eight line regiment with the Garde du Corps. During, the period of 1842-1843 the dress of the regiments were altered. The alterations consisted of a metal lobster style helmet and a modern tunic of off-white. With minor alterations this uniform remained intil the outbreak of World War I.
Uniform description:
Polished Steel helmet was worn by all regiments except the 6th, which wore a helmet of tombak (alloy of copper and zinc) which is a golden color. Short visor with lateral ridge.Square cornered for Officers. Inside of helmet was matt green.
Helmet mountings were of yellow metal with silver used for 6th regiments tombak helmets.
Chin scales were gilded for all regiments.
Spike was of polished steel with the spike column and base of yellow metal. the reverse true of the 6th Regiment, with a tombak spike and silver base and spike column.
Behind each chin scale boss was an enameled cockade: on the right, the national colors of black, silver-white and red; on the left, a black and silver-white Prussian cockade.
The helmets bore the inscription Mit Gott Fur Konig Und Vaterland.
The Kurasse was a front and back plate were of polished steel
Narrow black belt riveted to either side of the black plate.
Pouch belt was of leather covered with a metallic lace in the button color.
Boots were of black leather, with silver spurs for officers.
Short White gloves were worn.
A woven silver sash, with two stripes in the province co;or was worn around the waist under the kurasse, with two long silver tassels reaching to the left knee.
Officers carried sabres in black or blackish brown metal scabbards. Grips were black, bound with gold wire and the guard was guilt
Rank was indicated by metal pips.

Attached, is a picture of crown Prince Wilhelm in the uniform of the 2nd Kurassier regiment:
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Post by WhiskyAlpha » 27 Apr 2003 00:27

Hi ckleisch,
nice work, but under wrong circumstances. There had been never *IMPERIAL* German Regiments, what kind ever.
The Regiments You are writing about had been Royal Prussian ones.
After foundation of 2nd Reich 1871 every German Staat had his own military; Royal, Grand-Ducal, Ducal or what ever. The King of Prussia, as the German Emperor (NOT Emperor of Germany !!) was only in wartimes the Commander in Chief of all german troops.
The Navy was differed, and stood under direct order of the Kaiser. That's why he could detach ships and troops (Marine-Infantry) to China during the so called Boxer-War (China-War) in 1900.
It took hard work to combine different equipment in the last third of the 1900 century. Maybe You know the story of the carabine 86 rsp 98. Especial the "misunderstandings" between the Kingdoms Bavaria and Prussia are worth a story for itself.
OK, to make a long sentences short, the only "Imperial German" Units and Uniforms had been the Navy.
This stands until 1918, unalterable the circumstances of first world war.
The colours on the helmet etc shows black-white-red (German Empire) on the right/top and left/below p.e. white-blue (Kingdom of Bavaria) or white-green (Kingdom of Saxonia) or white-black (Kingdom of Prussia) a.s.o.
Like in our days, Germany is more a Union of Staates than a Staates-Union. And the King, rsp the Kaiser, should have been just "primus inter pares". Well, theory and praxis....


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Post by tyskaorden » 04 May 2003 20:44

A regimental list of the Curassier regiments of the german army
Garde Kürassier Regiment (Guards Curassier Rgt.) Berlin

Lieb Kürassier Regiment Grosser Kürfurst (Schlesisches) Nr 1 (LifeCR Great Elector [Silesian]No 1) Breslau

Kürassier Rgt. Königin (Pommersches)Nr 2 (CR Queen [Pommeranian] No 2) Pasewalk

Kürassier Rgt. Graf Wrangel (Ostpreussisches) Nr 3 (CR Count Wrangel [East Prussian] No 3) Königsberg It's last commanding officer was a Swedish volunteer count Gilbert Hamilton.

Kürassier Rgt. von Dreisen (Westfälische) Nr 4 (CR von D. [Westphalian] No 4) Münster

Kürassier Rgt. Herzog Friedrich Eugen von Württemberg (Westpreussisches) Nr 5 (CR Duke F E of Württemberg [West Prussian] No 5) Reisenburg, Rosenberg and Deutsch Eylau

Kürassier Regiment Kaiser Nicholas I von Russland (Brandenburgisches) Nr 6 (CR Emperor Nicholas I of Russia [Brandenburgian] No 6) Brandenburg

Kürassier Rgt. von Seydlitz (Magdeburgisches) Nr 7 (CR von S. [Magdeburgian] No 7) Quedlinburg (1st sqn) and Halberstadt (2nd-4th sqns)

Kürassier Rgt. Graf Gessler (Rheinisches) Nr 8 (CR Count Gessler [Rhenish] No 8 Deutz

Kgl. Sächsisches Garde Reiter Regiment (1. Schwere Rgt.) - Royal Saxon Horse Guards Rgt. (1st Heavy Regt.) Dresden

Kgl. Sächsisches Karabinier Rgt. (2. Schwere Rgt.) - Royal Saxon Carabineer Rgt (2nd Heavy Regt.) Borna

Kgl. Bayerische 1. Schwere Reiter Regiment Prinz Karl von Bayern - 1st Royal Bavarian Heavy Horse Rgt. Prince Karl of Bavaria München

Kgl. Bayr. 2. Schwere R.R. Erzherzog Franz-Ferdinand von Österreich-Este - 2nd Royal Bavarian Heavy Horse Regt. Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria-Este Landshut

The other states of the Empire did only field light cavalry regiments (Dragoons, Lancers, Hussars and Mounted Rifles)

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