named Stiller in Palestine

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named Stiller in Palestine

Post by stevebecker » 19 May 2019 23:56

Mates,

Can you look up three officers I have named "Stiller" with Ottoman forces in Palestine during the war?

These are the only details I have?

Stiller Lt observer Airforce (FA) Jasta 300
Stiller Lt No 2 Tragbare Funk Station (Sig unit) 1916/17
Stiller Berhard Lt Pnr officer no details on unit? (1894-?) later WWII Col Pnr to Maj Gen 1944

Its possible there maybe two men named are the same, but any confirmation would help?

Danke for any help here

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Re: named Stiller in Palestine

Post by Söderbaum » 02 Jun 2019 21:11

Hi Steve

I have the observer in FA 300 as an Oblt aD Stiller from originally GR 1. He apparently joined FA 300 after earlier been leader of the Turkish flying unit OFA 9. Before that he served in KG 4 but I dont knew which Staffel. He started as active officer promoted Lt 180812 mit P230810,Oblt aD 120216. What is noteworthy when promoted Oblt aD is that he did not loose any "time" in his promotion career.

As active officer he ought to be mentioned in this book : Franz v. Gottberg: "Das Grenadier-Regiment Kronprinz (1.Ostpreußisches) Nr.1 im Weltkriege.", (Erinnerungsblätter deutscher Regimenter: Truppenteile des ehemaligen preußischen Kontingents; Band 217), Berlin 1927-1929 (2 Bände),


I dont have a first name for him yet.

Gunnar

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Re: named Stiller in Palestine

Post by stevebecker » 02 Jun 2019 23:13

Gunnar,

Danke

Mate thank you for checking, I was thinking he may not be real.

Do you have when he joined 9th Sqn Tayyare Boluk (Aircraft Company - Ottoman Sqn) and when he joined FA 300?

The 9th Sqn was a Fighter Sqn based around Constanople and few mostly Fokker E 3's

9th Sqn was formed in Jan 1917 but the aircraft were operating before that date.

I have only Ottoman officers/Men in this Sqn and no Germans as yet?

I look forward to what you can find

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Re: named Stiller in Palestine

Post by Söderbaum » 03 Jun 2019 09:05

Hi again Steve

We need help from people like Glenn, Dave Danner etc who might have access to the book about his Regiment to come further with him. Essential is to find his first name to find further possible info in German archives. Stiller is a rather common name in Germany.

I dont have exact servicing date for him yet, but roughly he served in KG 4 during 1916, in OFA 9 during 1917 and FA 300 during 1918.

It apparently existed at least seven German flyers within OFA 9 throughout the War. I dont have good info Turkish flying units, it is merely a spin-off info from my normal research and info from other researchers.

Gunnar

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Re: named Stiller in Palestine

Post by stevebecker » 03 Jun 2019 22:50

Mate,

Thank you again for these details.

Seven known Germans in the OFA 9

Do you know any names?

I have the names of at lest 322 men who served with the Air units in Palestine, mostly air crew, but some ground staff. Many I don't have first name for or any details on them.

At lest 70 + men served in Ottoman air units.

Many Ottoman Sqn's had large numbers of Germans in them, like the 14th Sqn (OFA), which I have over 27 Germans, mostly aircrew, but some ground staff in it.

So names in 9th Sqn is interesting.

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Re: named Stiller in Palestine

Post by stevebecker » 03 Jun 2019 22:56

Mate,

Just to show

Known Germans

OFA 14 or 14th Sqn Tayyare Boluk

Beltz Capt observer Airforce 14th Sqn 2-18 to Kommdr de Flieger 4th Army 3-18 Tayyare Boluk 1918's PoW 21-9-18 when airfield at Damascus over run
Benecke Lt observer Airforce 14th Sqn Tayyare Boluk 1918's
Bezmi Sgt pilot Airforce 14th Sqn Tayyare Boluk 1918's
Dickmann Lt pilot Airforce 14th Sqn Tayyare Boluk 1918's
Dox Lt pilot Airforce 14th Sqn Tayyare Boluk 1918's
Gandenberg Lt observer Airforce 14th Sqn Tayyare Boluk 1918's
Ihm Max Dvr staff / ground crew Airforce 14th Sqn Tayyare Boluk 1918's died 18-10-18 or 19-10-18 buried German Military Cemetery Istanbul
Klamberg Lt observer Airforce 14th Sqn Tayyare Boluk 1918's
Levin or (Lewin) Capt observer Airforce OC 14th Sqn 5-18 to 10-18 - Amman'da 14. Uçus filosunda (In Amman's 14th Flight Fleet) Tayyare Boluk 1918's shown replaced Maj Zelich to Amman Group leader
Ludeke Lt observer Airforce 14th Sqn Tayyare Boluk 1918's
Mois von Lt observer Airforce 14th Sqn Tayyare Boluk 1918's
Nickel Sgt pilot Airforce 14th Sqn Tayyare Boluk 1918's
Otto Sgt pilot Airforce 14th Sqn Tayyare Boluk 1918's
Pawalka Sgt pilot Airforce 14th Sqn Tayyare Boluk 1918's
Posbach Sgt pilot Airforce 14th Sqn Tayyare Boluk 1918's
Prince de Sax Capt observer Airforce 14th Sqn Tayyare Boluk 1918's
Rolker Sgt pilot Airforce 14th Sqn Tayyare Boluk 1918's
Schefer Capt observer Airforce 14th Sqn Tayyare Boluk 1918's
Seelig Capt pilot Airforce OC 14th Sqn 3-18 Tayyare Boluk to Kommdr de Flieger 4th Army 9-18 - 1918'de 4. Ordu'da Dogu Ürdünde 14. Uçak bölük komutani 4. Ordu Uçak komutani (in Eastern Orthodox Jordan 14th Airplane division commander 4th Army Airplane commander) 1918's first OC 3-18
Straup Lt observer Airforce 14th Sqn Tayyare Boluk 1918's
unknown unknown Airforce 14th Sqn Tayyare Boluk reported unit lost 2 pilots KIA 24-6-18 in British Air raid of Deraa
Vagner Lt observer Airforce 14th Sqn Tayyare Boluk 1918's
Vereyen Sgt pilot Airforce 14th Sqn Tayyare Boluk 1918's
Volf Lt pilot Airforce 14th Sqn Tayyare Boluk 1918's
Wegerhoff or Wieczorek Augustus Flieger staff / ground crew Airforce 14th Sqn Tayyare Boluk 1917-18 (died 26-10-18) or (died 25-10-18) buried German Military Cemetery Istanbul
Wiese Lt observer Airforce 14th Sqn Tayyare Boluk 1918's
Zelich Capt observer Airforce OC 14th Sqn 2-18 to 5-18 shown formed Amman group of 3rd 4th & 14th Sqn at Amman called 4th Army dettachment under Maj Zelich (G) 1-5-18 Tayyare Boluk 1918's also shown Capt Seelig


The spelling of names are as the document I read and may very from the German, few have first names to cross check with other documents?

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Re: named Stiller in Palestine

Post by Söderbaum » 04 Jun 2019 08:31

Hi again Steve

I have some notes from a group of researchers who have studied the Turkish flying units, it is not my material. I dont know when they plan to publish it. One German pilot which came from Tobias Weber web-site, Uffz Warscheid served within OFA 9 during 1918.

I have seen lists like that the names of OFA 14 which you mentioned above. It is noteworthy that "they" cant spell a "single" German name correct :lol: But maybe they have used original Turkish sources where the clerks were unable to spell/understand the German language.

Gunnar

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Re: named Stiller in Palestine

Post by stevebecker » 04 Jun 2019 23:54

Mate,

Of cause any correction to these names would be helpfully.

Thank you again

Cheers

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