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Post by Peter H » 22 Jun 2007 05:49

His successor.

Oberstleutnant Fritjof Freiherr von Hammerstein-Gesmold(1870-1944).Commanded Freikorps Brigade Olita in Kurland,1919.Charakter als Generalleutnant in 1939(One of those promoted on the 25th Anniversary of Tannenberg in 1939.His 146th Regiment had fought in that battle as well).

Note his PLM and Turkish Star in photo below:From Wehrmacht-awards-com,poster Larrister.


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Post by Peter H » 22 Jun 2007 06:13

The new "Reinforced Asian Corps" in November 1918:

Hans Guhr in his book p.235(Thanks to Tosun)
"On Nov.4th 1918 Feldmarshal Liman Pasha arrived with his daughters and adjutants at Haydarpasha Railway Station(Constantinople). I went to welcome him with General von Lenthe and Maj.Lynker.... Each day 800 or 1000 German soldiers were arriving to Istanbul from various parts of Turkey. On Nov. 11st 1918 there were already 730 German officers and 9600 men in the camps of Haydarpasha and Moda. With this men a new "Reinforced Asian Corps" was founded under command of Lt.Col. Baron von Hammerstein who was commander of 146th German Inf. Reg."



The British arrival at Constantinople on the 10th November 1918:
With a Turkish pilot on board to guide us through the rest of the minefields, the destroyer made her way on into the Sea of Marmora, and increased her speed to thirty knots. So that at 3 o'clock this afternoon, under a cloudy sky, but one filled with the diffused lights of the East, we rounded the point of the old Seraglio and entered the Golden Horn.

There was no demonstration of any kind. It seemed as if no one had even noticed the arrival of this herald of the British fleet. But as we drew near to the quay one saw that the houses and windows were thronged with people.

The crowd had an unusual tone of red about it, derived from all the crimson fezzes bobbing to and fro as their wearers strained for a glimpse. And a few waved handkerchiefs. A German officer stood on the quay close to where the destroyer gradually came alongside.

He was more interested than any one, but affected indifference and yawned with care from time to time. A little group of German soldiers and sailors gradually formed behind him as if for mutual moral support. For years they had been the self-ordained military gods of this place, but now their altars are overthrown and they see Turkish naval officers of high rank hurrying past them to pay respects to the representative of a nation they once thought they could despise.

We are, indeed, much surrounded by an unwelcome neighbourhood of Germans. Germans look down on us from their office windows opposite the quay. Here in my bedroom at the Pera Palace Hotel there are Germans talking in the rooms on either side of me as I write. I gather from fragments overheard that they are packing up.

One is pleased to think that their compatriots throughout Turkey are doing the same. As we drove up from the quay, too, there seemed a considerable number of Germans, and also Austrians, in the streets. The Austrians saluted the party of British officers. The Germans swaggered by with a stare, the non-commissioned officers and men smoking cigars, which give them to English eyes a peculiar appearance of pretentiousness.
G.Ward Price,Source Records of the Great War, Vol. VI,1923.


Technically although both Britain and Germany were still at war,until the next day the 11th November,both honoured the Ottoman surrender as the cessation of hosilities in that region.

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Post by Peter H » 23 Jun 2007 01:43

A Moroccan in the Asienkorps

The Moroccan Ben Aissa.

When the Kaiser arrived at Tangiers in 1905,the Moroccan youth Ben Aissa,then 18 years old,lead part of the way the Kaiser on horseback through the city.This youth impressed the Kaiser and in 1906 he was invited to Potsdam.Returning again in 1907 Ben Aissa was enrolled into the 1.Garde Regiment zu Fuss as a standard bearer.His impressive height of 188cm played its part as well.By 1913 Ben Aissa was an NCO in this famous regiment.

In 1914 he stayed back with the replacement battalion of his regiment.Later he joined the Asienkorps and served on the Palastinafront 1917/18.

In December 1918 he returned to his regiment's depot at Potsdam.Demobilised in mid 1919 he then returned home to Tangiers,after 12 years service with the Kaiser's Army.

Source: http://www.erstes-garderegiment.de/

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Post by Peter H » 23 Jun 2007 02:40

Recommended reading.

Feldgrau in Jerusalem : Das Levantekorps des kaiserlichen Deutschland

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Post by Peter H » 23 Jun 2007 03:00

The Reichsarchiv history on this unit is in the Schlachten des Weltkrieges 1914-1918 series.

"Jildirim". Deutsche Streiter auf heiligem Boden,1926.
(English trans: "Jildirim".German Combats on Holy Ground)


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Post by Peter H » 23 Jun 2007 04:03

The postwar veteran's association of the Asienkorps was the Bund der Asienkämpfer.This association included veterans with service in the Ottoman Empire,the Balkans,and the Orient.

The association published around 20 magazines with veteran accounts,memoirs between 1919 and 1938.

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Post by Peter H » 23 Jun 2007 04:17

Max Simon-Eberhard's memoirs Mit dem Asienkorps zur Palästinafront,1919,should also be noted.

Simon-Eberhard was an artillery Hauptmann in Turkey and later moved to Shanghai in 1932.He established the German newspaper the Deutsche Shanghai Zeitung in Shanghai,considered later as a pro-Nazi rag.

Simon(he changed his name to Simon-Eberhard after the war) served with Feldartillerie-Abteilung Nr.701.

Another veteran's account is Josef Drexler's Mit Jildirim ins Heilige Land,1919,

Carl Mühlmann's Das Deutsch-Türkische Waffenbündnis im Weltkrieg,1940 has been described elsewhere as "the single best, most useful, and valuable German account" of the Asienkorps.

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Post by Peter H » 26 Jun 2007 07:48

Liman von Sanders at Mt.Carmel,inspection tour,March 1918.

Source: The Changing Land Between the Jordan and the Sea,Benjamin Kedar,1999

Note German guards

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Post by Peter H » 26 Jun 2007 08:05

Peter H wrote:The Reichsarchiv history on this unit is in the Schlachten des Weltkrieges 1914-1918 series.

"Jildirim". Deutsche Streiter auf heiligem Boden,1926.
(English trans: "Jildirim".German Combats on Holy Ground)


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Written by Obergeneralarzt a.D Dr Werner Steuber.Steuber was the chief German medical officer in Palestine 1917/1918.Steuber's main role was to limit the outbreak of disease among the Germans

Diseases like cholera were the biggest killers in Palestine/Turkey(as witnessed by the deaths of von der Goltz from spotted fever in Irak and Oppen from cholera in Adana).A big outbreak of cholera on the Sinaifront in 1917 immobilised German resources for a time.The Spanish flu also appeared among the German ranks in Palestine and Syria in late 1918

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Post by Peter H » 30 Jun 2007 00:24

Here's something on German deployments to Palestine,from Cron:

Expedition Pascha 1916
MG Coys 601,602,603,604,605,606,607,608
Foot Artillery Btn 60
Balloon MG Defence Zugs 133,134,135,136
Minenwerfer Btn 350
Minenwerfer Btn 351
Minenwerfer Btn 352
Aviation--FA-300
Telephone detachment 103
Wireless command 105

Followed by:

Expedition Pascha II 1917
Asienkorps
Staff 201 Infantrie Brigade
701 Infantrie Btn
702 Infantrie Btn
703 Infantrie Btn
(each 'battalion' was a reinforced all arms unit consisting of one infantrie battalion,one MG company,one cavalry zug,one light gun zug,one Pioneer section,one MW section)
Field artillery Btn 701
FA-301,302,303,304b(aviation)
Pioneer Coy 205
Signal Btn Pascha II

Reinforcements 1918
Reserve Jäger 11 Batn
IR 146(from Macedonia)
FA-305
Jasta 55

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Post by cj » 30 Jun 2007 03:28

Balloon MG Defence Zugs 133,134,135,136
The Asiakorps had Balloons???

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Post by Peter H » 30 Jun 2007 04:33

The Pascha 1 units of 1916 were used to "flesh out" Ottoman forces.

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asien-Korps


Ottoman observation balloon units first served in the Balkan Wars.I assume the MG Defence Zugs operated with these units as its defence component from air attacks.

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Post by Peter H » 30 Jun 2007 04:59

Evidence that the Asienkorps also wore stahlhelms?

Photo courtesy of Bill Woerlee.

Australian LH photo of captured Bergmann LMG 15,stahlhelm and pistols.

But they might also be Turkish.


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Post by Peter H » 30 Jun 2007 06:01

German aviator in Palestine--from ebay

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Off to the Heiligem--this might be at the staging area of the Asienkorps in Neu-Hammer,Silesia

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Post by Peter H » 30 Jun 2007 11:59

Oberst Werner von Frankenberg zu Proschlitz(1868-1933) commanded the Asienkorps from its initial raising at the staging area in Neu-Hammer July 1917.In command to June 1918 in Turkey.Oppen took over command after.

The Oberst had extensive experience with the Turks.He had first served overseas as an Adjutant during the Boxer Rebellion in 1900.In 1914 he was COS 2nd Turkish Army,COS 4th Turkish Army 1915-16.Commanded the German Genadier-Regiment Nr 2 in the Rumanian campaign,January 1917.

In 1919 von Frankenberg zu Proschlitz commanded the Freikorps 2 Freiwilligen. Landesjäger-Brigade(part of the Freiwilligen Landesjägerkorps ).Promoted to Generalmajor in 1920.
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