A. von Freytag-Loringhoven

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A. von Freytag-Loringhoven

Post by Nina van M. » 30 Nov 2003 19:19

Does anybody have a picture and biography of Alexander von Freytag-Loringhoven maybe? If so, please post it here!

I find this man very interesting, because I've heard of his book "Deducations from the World War". Von Freytag-Loringhoven wrote and published it year before war ended, that Germany has no chance winning the ww1, he even wrote about the next war and how could the country inevitably win the following war. (a prophet?! 8O )
Has anybody read this book and what is your opinion about this man in general?

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Post by Lord Gort » 30 Nov 2003 23:57

Did Loringhoven have a son. Its just the name rings a bell from what I have read on world war 2.




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Post by Nina van M. » 01 Dec 2003 00:13

Yes, lord Gort. It's quite possible you've read or heard of his son. As far as I can remember, his name is Berndt and he's still alive. He was serving in Luftwaffe during WW2 and could be seen in some documentary WW2 films commenting the war events.
If I am wrong, please correct me!

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Post by Peter H » 01 Dec 2003 11:08

Hugo von Freytag-Lorvinghoven wrote Deductions from the World War in late 1918 after the Armistice.

Hugo was formerly the Chief Historian of the German General Staff and was most probably related to Alexander in some way.

Thus the myth that a serving German general would publish a heretical thesis on Germany's woes in 1917 is untrue. 8O

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Post by Nina van M. » 01 Dec 2003 14:55

Hey, Moulded- check out this site please and tell me what do you think:

http://www.firstworldwar.com/bio/freytagloringoven.htm

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Post by Nina van M. » 01 Dec 2003 18:06

Hello again!

"Power of personality in war" , published in 1911 is the only book I've heard from General Staff Historian Hugo von Freytag-Loringhoven(1855-1924) and was published with others in books called "Roots of strategy". "Theorie und Praxis bei König Friedrich, Napoleon und Moltke- Vierteljahrshefte für Truppenführung und Heereskunde V, no1. (published 1909) is another one from Freiherr von F-L.

Alexander Freiherr von F-L. (1849-1926) was during WW1 at first Quartermaster-General from 1915-1916, than Deputy Chief of the General Staff from 1916-1918. He cooperated with Falkenhayn and von Hindenburg. I don't think it's the same one you think, Moulded?

There is Bernd Freiherr Freytag von Loringhoven and he was a general in Wehrmacht.
But there is also another von Freytag-Loringhoven, Oberst Wessel Freiherr von F-L. who worked in the "Abwehr" and was specialised for explosives. He also took part in 20 July 1944 plot.

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Post by Peter H » 02 Dec 2003 09:45

von kluge wrote:Hey, Moulded- check out this site please and tell me what do you think:

http://www.firstworldwar.com/bio/freytagloringoven.htm

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Mr Duffy needs to correct Alexander's biography. :roll:
I get the impression that Alexander and Hugo were brothers.

Hugo(1855-1924) was appointed liason officer with the Austro-Hungarian command and is remembered for the quote that Conrad's strategic concepts were only suitable for a German army.Due to his pessimistic views he was replaced in early 1915.

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Post by Peter H » 02 Dec 2003 10:23

General Bernd Freiherr Freytag von Loringhoven commanded a panzer battalion in 1942 and was encircled at Stalingrad.He was flown out of the pocket in January 1943,one of the specialists saved for future operations.He was an aide to Guderian thereafter.

Postwar he was later deputy general inspector of the German Federal Armed Forces and retired in 1973.

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Post by Nina van M. » 02 Dec 2003 12:52

Thanks for replying, Moulded!

I think there's a big mess with von Freytag-Loringhoven family... So many names are mentioned and no wonder I confused them... I've found something on the Net also about Alexander's role in Weimar republic, where he engaged politically and some other (?mis-?)information, so I really don't know anymore,who is who and what was relation between them :roll:
Can you help me with this pehaps? Biography, picture from any "WW1 Freytag-Loringhoven"?

Greeting, von Kluge

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