Schutztruppe in Kamerun want to seize Kinshasa and Brazzaville in 1914?

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Schutztruppe in Kamerun want to seize Kinshasa and Brazzaville in 1914?

Post by Tanzania » 05 Sep 2021 15:29

Schutztruppe in Kamerun want to seize Kinshasa and Brazzaville in 1914?
“On the morning of August 3, 1914, the German community of Kinshasa, as well as several hundred specially-recruited
able-bodied Congolese, left port for the Sangha River, the main artery serving eastern Kamerun, then a German
colony. The mission of the “Dongo”, a steamer of the Kamerun Schiffahrt Gesellschaft company, was to link up with
German forces and ships located on the Sangha and return in force to seize Kinshasa and Brazzaville. Unfortunately
for German aspirations, French troops out of Brazzaville aboard the “Albert Dolisie” were on their heels and by August
6 the “Dongo” was captured and German plans to control the upper Congo and Ubangi Rivers were dreams. The
Great War had come to Leopoldville.”
Source: http://kosubaawate.blogspot.com/2014/08/

Does anyone know more details, or is it again only a fake-report from a history-revisionist?
Cheers Holger
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Re: Schutztruppe in Kamerun want to seize Kinshasa and Brazzaville in 1914?

Post by danebrog » 08 Sep 2021 11:01

The Text ist quoted 1:1 from:
River Gunboats: An illustrated Encyclopaedia by Roger Branfill-Cook (2016)
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Re: Schutztruppe in Kamerun want to seize Kinshasa and Brazzaville in 1914?

Post by Tanzania » 09 Sep 2021 11:48

Okay; - thanks for info.
(So ein Roger; - habe ihm 2015/16 noch etliche Hinweise für Seefahrzeuge in DOA gegeben.)

By the way; - Our research in the formally `www.Panzer-Archiv.de´ is now available via the Internet Archive:
https://web.archive.org/web/20130522051 ... php?t=9780

But I will continue to investigate the information provided by Roger.
Cheers Holger
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Re: Schutztruppe in Kamerun want to seize Kinshasa and Brazzaville in 1914?

Post by Tanzania » 14 Sep 2021 14:51

“On the morning of August 3, 1914, the German community of Kinshasa, as well as several hundred specially-recruited
able-bodied Congolese, left port for the Sangha River, the main artery serving eastern Kamerun, then a German
colony. The mission of the “Dongo”, a steamer of the Kamerun Schiffahrt Gesellschaft company, was to link up with
German forces and ships located on the Sangha and return in force to seize Kinshasa and Brazzaville. Unfortunately
for German aspirations, French troops out of Brazzaville aboard the “Albert Dolisie” were on their heels and by August
6 the “Dongo” was captured and German plans to control the upper Congo and Ubangi Rivers were dreams. The
Great War had come to Leopoldville.”

“Authorities in Leopoldville and the colonial capital at Boma did not learn of the formal declaration of war in Europe
until August 5th. The Belgian government authorized aggressive action against the Germans and on August 28, Georges
Moulaert, District Commissioner in Leopoldville, seized the German commercial vessels “Congo” and “Lobaye” (renamed
Liege and Haelen, respectively).”
Source: http://kosubaawate.blogspot.com/2014/08/


What is this blog claiming now? If we want to check the different statements, we have to
extract and analyse the individual text passages. The following statements have been made:


1) On the morning of August 3, 1914 . . .
It is mentioned that the European declarations of war on August 3, 1914 were known in Central Africa.

2). . . the German community of Kinshasa . . . (?)
Was there a German community in the capital of the Belgian Congo in 1914, and how big was it?

3) . . . as well as several hundred specially-recruited able-bodied Congolese . . . (?)
Here it is alleged that the Germans recruited several hundred Congolese in the Belgian territory and transported them to German territory.

4) . . . The mission of the “Dongo”, . . (?)
Was there a steamer “Dongo”, of the `Deutschen Kameruner Schifffahrt-Gesellschaft´, in 1914?

5) . . . was to link up with German forces and ships located on the Sangha . . .
Which forces of the `Schutztruppe´ were there in 1914 in the extreme south-east of the `Sangha Corner '?
How strong and where were they stationed? What other German ships were there at that time?

7) . . . and return in force to seize Kinshasa and Brazzaville. (?)
What reputable source mentions the plan of the `Schutztruppe´ to seize Léopoldville (Kinshasa) and Brazzaville?


On the lower section of the map we see the whole area of the `Sangha Corner´, which was part of
`Neu-Kamerun´ from 1911 and the connection on the Congo River from Léopoldville (Kinshasa) in
Belgian Congo and Brazzaville in French Equatorial-Africa to Bonga in German Cameroon at the
estuary of the Sangha River in the Congo, as well as further up the Sangha River to in the vicinity of
Wesso in French Equatorial-Africa. Some German companies and posts are also listed on this map.

Southern Part of `Neu-Kamerun´ in 1911.jpg
Original Source: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... amerun.jpg


We will try to investigate these further questions.
Cheers Holger.
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Re: Schutztruppe in Kamerun want to seize Kinshasa and Brazzaville in 1914?

Post by danebrog » 15 Sep 2021 02:12

Soldiers of their Own: Honor, Violence, Resistance and Conscription in Colonial Cameroon during the First World War
by George Ndakwena Njun

https://deepblue.lib.umich.edu/bitstrea ... sequence=1
pages 213 - 219 describes the actions at the Sangha river. There´s a mention of captured german steamers, but no names

about the "Kameruner Schiffahrtgesellschaft":
https://books.google.de/books?id=-5lQAA ... ha&f=false

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Post by Tanzania » 16 Sep 2021 13:10

The first mentioned source promised some interesting details. Currently I collect only further sources:


From a British perspective
Military Operations – Togoland and the Cameroons, 1914 – 1916, F.J. Moberly, London 1931
Operations by the French, 31st July – September 1914 page 116 (152) – 117 (153)
15th 25th August Sanga – Lobaye Columns September – Gabon August & September

https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id= ... &skin=2021

French action and intentions in the south and south-east, and the arrival of a Belgian detachment
October 1914, Page 174 (210)

https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id= ... up&seq=210


From a Belgian perspective
Les Campagnes Coloniales Belges 1914 – 1918, Bruxelles 1927
Tome I, Les opérations au Cameroun, Chapitere premier, Généralités,

4. – Téâtre des opérations de 1914 au Cameroun (région Ubangi-Sangha) page 49
https://sammlungen.ub.uni-frankfurt.de/ ... fo/7788601


From a French perspective
La conquête du Cameroun, 1er août 1914-20 février 1916 : avec 9 croquis
http://www.universitepopulairemeroeafri ... _1916_.pdf

Les entreprises coloniales françaises – Afrique Equatoriale Française
(Many further links and Photos from Congo-steamers)
https://www.entreprises-coloniales.fr/a ... _Congo.pdf

(Also the main home page include further links)
https://www.entreprises-coloniales.fr/a ... caise.html


From a German perspective
This German source offer some interesting detail reports, but without an overlook about the situation at the Sanga River
Kämpfer an vergessenen Fronten – Der Krieg in den Kolonien – 3. Kapitel – Kamerun
https://digi.landesbibliothek.at/viewer ... 24635/167/

But all these text-passages have to be read, translated, analysed and must be compared with each other.

I come back with the summary, (. . .and maybe further questions?)
Cheers Holger
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Re: Schutztruppe in Kamerun want to seize Kinshasa and Brazzaville in 1914?

Post by danebrog » 16 Sep 2021 18:01

Tanzania wrote:
16 Sep 2021 13:10

But all these text-passages have to be read, translated, analysed and must be compared with each other.

I come back with the summary, (. . .and maybe further questions?)
Cheers Holger
Like "in the good old days" with Kotthaus-Tours: always on the road in the most offbeat corners of the world - eagerly appreciated :)

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Re: Schutztruppe in Kamerun want to seize Kinshasa and Brazzaville in 1914?

Post by Tanzania » 17 Sep 2021 08:29

We thought about a Congo-Tour from Kisangani to Kinshasa since over 10 years ago.
As you know, rumours mentioned a Königsberg-gun in each of the two cities. Due to
a lack of French knowledge, we are dependent on a guided tour.


Complete Congo River Cruise (22 days)
https://congotravelandtours.com/complet ... e-22-days/

Also `Bwana Tucke-Tucke´/ Carsten Möhle offer a Congo-Tour in 2022
https://bwana.de/spezialreisen/expediti ... -2022.html

But 2022 and 2023 are full booked by us, so we have to wait. . .
Cheers Holger
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