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Haiti 1914

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Post by cj » 26 Jun 2007, 00:06

I was reading the chronology of the Marine Corps that Im sure all American members have seen, and it said American, German, French and British marines landed in Haiti only months before WW1, what happened to these marines at the start of the war. The German Navy Deployment post on this thread has listed the SMS Vineta and Bremen in Haiti in 1914, what happened to these ships?

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Post by Peter H » 26 Jun 2007, 03:34

SMS Vineta:

http://www.battleships-cruisers.co.uk/sms_vineta.htm


SMS Bremen(sunk in the Baltic by mine 1915):

http://www.deutsche-schutzgebiete.de/sms_bremen.htm



A good link as well:

Die preußisch-deutsche Marine in Lateinamerika 1866 -1914

http://docserver.bis.uni-oldenburg.de/p ... nhalt.html



It would be interesting to find out the full details on both ships at Haiti.


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Post by Peter H » 26 Jun 2007, 03:51

My understanding is that both these ships had returned to Germany by mid 1914,replaced at the West Indies station by SMS Karlsruhe and SMS Dresden.

Karlsruhe blew up in November 1914:

http://deutsche-schutzgebiete.de/sms_karlsruhe_1.htm


Dresden(with one Wilhelm Canaris serving aboard) rounded the Horn to link up with Graf von Spee.Scuttled,Chile,March 1915:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMS_Dresden

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Post by cj » 27 Jun 2007, 21:24

so what happened to the Marines on Haiti?

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Post by Peter H » 28 Jun 2007, 02:57

I assume they were only a landing party and soon departed.

They would have been crew members of both ships anyway.No marine detachments served on German navy ships by 1914.

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Post by cj » 28 Jun 2007, 04:58

ok, Did the Germans ever take any action to try and take power or anything on Haiti. When the war started German colonists owned almost everything on the island

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Post by Peter H » 28 Jun 2007, 06:52

A German coaling station was being considered according to here:

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ ... ti1914.htm

Môle Saint-Nicolas had previously been requested by the US as a naval station.

It appears that the 200 or so German merchants there also intermarried with the French speaking Haitian elite.

I can't find any evidence that a German policy of taking over the territory existed.

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Post by Graham Clayton » 16 Aug 2014, 09:11

In 1914, the Wilson Administration sent marines into Haiti who removed $500,000 from the Haitian National Bank in December of 1914 for safe-keeping in New York, thus giving the U.S. control of the bank.
https://history.state.gov/milestones/1914-1920/haiti
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