Missing Gun from the SMS Königsberg

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Re: Missing Gun from the SMS Königsberg

Post by Tanzania » 19 Apr 2021 06:17

arche-foto wrote:
18 Apr 2021 15:53
Hello,
I have several original photos of some pictures shown here. The labeling on the backs might be helpful.
first: Kigoma
15-cm-geschuetz.jpg kigoma_werkstatt_geschuetz_b.jpg

My picture is very high quality, very good exposed, also inside full of details. The scale is real, maybe a circle 360.
Guten Morgen Burkhard
You posted a lot of photos. Thanks for this. Some are known, but yours are, of course in a better Quality.
Let start with the first: 15 cm-gun and 15-cm-geschuetz.jpg. Here some German explenation for this old 15-cm L/22 R.K.

Engagement of the 15-cm-Ringkanone.jpg

In my opinion it would make less scence to rebuild this gun in Kigoma, if the position have been in Daressalam.
I think the description `Kigoma´is not correct.
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Re: Missing Gun from the SMS Königsberg

Post by arche-foto » 19 Apr 2021 06:29

Thanks, I know the backround for this 15-cm-gun. I think also, "Kigoma" is unreal.

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Re: Missing Gun from the SMS Königsberg

Post by Tanzania » 19 Apr 2021 06:36

Regarding the second photo in post # 718 koenigsberg-geschuetz_009_013.
and the explanation on the back: `Daressalam, Geschütz v.d. Rg. 1915 Königsberg “´
viewtopic.php?p=2338265#p2338265

The photo shows without a doubt a permanently installed Königsberg gun. Here in this thread it was
already mentioned that the photo was installed in Kigoma or Dar es Salaam. Both seem possible.
(I come back with other comments, later)

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Re: Missing Gun from the SMS Königsberg

Post by Tanzania » 20 Apr 2021 08:06

Regarding post #719 viewtopic.php?p=2338266#p2338266

For me it seems to be, that your two pictures are enlargements from this original photo.

56_8,8-cm S.K. L30 on M.P.L. C89 on stern of Goetzen.jpg
10,5-cm SK, 8,8-cm SK + 3,7-cm RK.png

Very nice photo(s); - congratulation; - thanks for posting.

But I don´t understand your comment:
“The picture with the 2 8,8 guns on the Lake Tanganyika (page 21) is dated: October 18, 1914”

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Re: Missing Gun from the SMS Königsberg

Post by danebrog » 21 Apr 2021 22:20

It wasn´t two 8.8cm guns but one 8.8 and one 3.7cm gun
Goetzen.jpg
https://sklep.gpm.pl/de/kartonmodellbau ... tzen-1/250
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Re: Missing Gun from the SMS Königsberg

Post by Tanzania » 22 Apr 2021 05:52

Tanzania wrote:
20 Apr 2021 08:06
“The picture with the 2 8,8 guns on the Lake Tanganyika (page 21) is dated: October 18, 1914”
Hi Oliver,
but at the above mentioned date, in October 1914, the Goetzen wasn´t in service, and both 8,8-cm L/30 are on a wooden raft?!?
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Re: Missing Gun from the SMS Königsberg

Post by Tanzania » 22 Apr 2021 12:41

Das anybody know this Photo in a better quality?
Seem to be from the same photo-series like the enlagements from arche-foto before.
I can remember this was posted 10 years ago in the https://www.chakoten.dk/

10,5-cm L40_Korogwe-Gun .jpg
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