GSWA / Lüderitzbucht in 1915 - Captured German Tug `LUDWIG WIENER´

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GSWA / Lüderitzbucht in 1915 - Captured German Tug `LUDWIG WIENER´

Post by Tanzania » 04 Mar 2016 12:19

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GSWA / Lüderitzbucht in 1915 - Captured German Tug `LUDWIG WIENER´




I found in a German article a short description about the Tug `Ludwig Wiener´ which was captured from the South African´s,
July 1915 in Lüderitzbucht / German South West Africa. The South African´s equipped it with some smaller guns, but it wasn´t
mentioned if during the Great War and where. If it was used by the South African Navy before 1918, it could be only in GEA.

Als die Union of South Africa am 31. Mai 1910 ins Leben gerufen wurde, entwickelte sich danach der South African Defence
Act bis 1912 mit der Absicht, eine südafrikanische Kriegsmarine aufzubauen und Freiwillige anzuwerben. So entstand die
Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve (RNVR) mit ihrer South African Division. Man formierte zwei Kompanien in Kapstadt, A und B
genannt, sowie Kompanie C in Durban. Das Hauptquartier befand sich in Simon's Town.

Beim Ausbruch des Ersten Weltkriegs stand zunächst die deutsche Kolonie Südwestafrika im Mittelpunkt des Interesses „als
Feindbild“. Inzwischen umfasste die South African Division 12 Offiziere sowie 267 Seeleute. Das Kapstädter Detachement
wurde alarmiert und schiffte sich auf dem Kreuzer HYACINTH in Simon's Town ein, während ein Kontingent der Kompanie C
an Bord von HMS ASTRACA ging.

Es war Aufgabe dieser Männer, eine Blockade der Küste von Deutsch-Ostafrika und den Kreuzer KÖNIGSBERG zu verfolgen.
Hinzu kam das Landungsmanöver in Walvisbay und Lüderitzbucht, um Kräfte der Schutztruppe zu binden. Nach der Kapitulation
Deutsch-Südwestafrikas im Juli 1915 sollte ein Teil der Marine-Infanteristen demobilisiert werden, doch bot sich den Freiwilligen
vom Oktober 1915 bis September 1917 die Gelegenheit in den Dienst der Royal Navy Großbritanniens zu treten. Fünf Offiziere
und 160 Matrosen machten mit.

Die Besetzung Südwestafrikas brachte es mit sich, dass man in Lüderitzbucht wenigstens ein deutsches Schiff „kapern“ konnte:
Es handelte sich um den Hafenschlepper LUDWIG WIENER mit 658 Tonnen und 2400 PS Leistung. Dieser starke Schlepper
fuhr 12 Knoten schnell und schluckte täglich 30 Tonnen Bunkerkohle. Die Briten gaben dem erbeuteten Schiff ihren Namen
AFRIKANDER und montierten kleine Geschütze auf Deck. 1919 wurde die bescheidene südafrikanische Marine wieder aufgelöst.

( ``The captured harbour tug LUDWIG WIENER, Lüderitzbucht´´ )

Image

Source: Südafrikas Marine und die deutsche Seekriegsführung von Golf Dornseif (1929-2013) http://www.golf-dornseif.de


Personally, however, I wonder whether this photo was taken in the small harbour of Lüderitzbucht with these mountains and
the even the extensive port-installations in the background. I assume the mountain on the left side is the Devil's Peak and on
the right side the Table Mountain in Capetown / South Africa. The name on the photo is clear `Ludwig Wiener´ and not already
`Afrikander´ of the South African Navy. The consequence must be, it wasn´t directly renamed after the capture by S.-A.- Navy.


Has anyone further informations?

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Re: GSWA / Lüderitzbucht in 1915 - Captured German Tug `LUDWIG WIENER´

Post by danebrog » 18 Mar 2016 18:26

AFRIKANDER (ex-BISMARCK, ex-VICTORIA), whaler, German vessel seized in South Africa. Built 1883, 126grt. In service 11.14-2.19 at Cape Station as base ship at Simonstown. Sold, renamed VICTORIA 1922.

source: http://www.naval-history.net/WW1NavyBri ... ttmar1.htm

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Re: GSWA / Lüderitzbucht in 1915 - Captured German Tug `LUDWIG WIENER´

Post by Tanzania » 19 Mar 2016 05:41

AFRIKANDER (ex-BISMARCK, ex-VICTORIA), whaler, German vessel seized in South Africa. Built 1883, 126grt. In service 11.14-2.19 at Cape Station as base ship at Simontstown. Sold, renamed VICTORIA 1922.
BISMARCK, ex-VICTORIA), whaler, German vessel seized in South Africa

http://www.naval-history.net/WW1NavyBri ... ttmar1.htm


Afrikander 1913 HMS - Auxiliary Patrol Ship

HMS Afrikander
Auxiliary Patrol Ship
Depot Ship
Launched by Ferguson Shipbuilders Port Glasgow, Yard No 209, on 20/8/1913 as the steam Tug Ludwig Wiener
for the Railways & Harbour Administration of the Union Government of South Africa at Cape Town. Scrapped in
Durban by K.Nathan, starting in June 1962.
http://forums.clydemaritime.co.uk/downl ... &mode=view

658 GRT
160ft x 32ft1in x16ft1in
Twin screw, 4 boilers, 2 x T3cyl, 1200ihp each, giving 13.7 knots
1 x 12pdr, 1 x 6pdr and searchlights

Completed in October 1913
16/8/1914 requisitioned for use in the South West African campaign as a patrol ship and she was the first
South African quasi-warship. Her name was not thought appropriate for fighting against Germany and she
was renamed AFRIKANDAR
She was also the nominated Depot ship at Simontstown.
19/3/1915 Returned as LUDWIG WEINER. She was replaced by the captured German Whaler Bismarck, renamed
Afrikander
.

Source: http://forums.clydemaritime.co.uk/viewt ... 47&t=12701


16. August 1914 – The tug Ludwig Wiener becomes the armed patrol vessel HMS Afrikander

Source: http://www.sanavalfraternity.org/author ... ne/page/3/



Here is another photo of the S.S. LUDWIG WIENER:
http://www.clydesite.co.uk/clydebuilt/s ... R_209.html




Seems to be this tug / whaler was not a German built, or used ship and haven’t been captured in Lüderitzbucht.

Furthermore:
Some of the above mentioned sources must be wrong, or two ships (tug / whaler) exists with the name `Afrikander´
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Re: GSWA / Lüderitzbucht in 1915 - Captured German Tug `LUDWIG WIENER´

Post by danebrog » 19 Mar 2016 17:05

Some of the above mentioned sources must be wrong, or two ships (tug / whaler) exists with the name `Afrikander´
It was Mr. Dornseif who obviously fell victim to a - albeit understandable - confusion:
There was an earlier vessel by this name, a Cape Town-based steam tug called the LUDWIG WIENER, which the British Admiralty took up for war service in 1914. Armed with one 12-pounder and one 6-pounder gun and additional searchlights, she became the armed patrol vessel HMS AFRIKANDER. She served under the White Ensign for a mere seven months before being returned to the South African Railways and Harbours Administration, reverting to her original name.

Later in the war, another merchant vessel - a Norwegian-owned (but German-registered) whalecatcher called BISMARCK (a prize of war) - was pressed into service as HMS Afrikander (ii), which served as a base ship at Simon's Town between 1917-19.
http://www.worldnavalships.com/forums/a ... -3774.html
see also:
HMS Afrikander
Launched by Ferguson Shipbuilders Port Glasgow, Yard No 209, on 20/8/1913 as the steam Tug Ludwig Wiener for the Railways & Harbour Administration of the Union Government of South Africa at Cape Town. Scrapped in Durban by K.Nathan, starting in June 1962.

16/8/1914 requisitioned for use in the South West African campaign as a patrol ship and she was the first South African quasi-warship. Her name was not thought appropriate for fighting against Germany and she was renamed AFRIKANDER
She was also the nominated Depot ship at Simonstown
19/3/1915 Returned as LUDWIG WEINER. She was replaced by the captured German Whaler BISMARCK, renamed AFRIKANDER.
http://forums.clydemaritime.co.uk/viewt ... 47&t=12701

SOLUTION:
There was at first the South African steam Tug Ludwig Wiener who served as Afrikander. It was replaced by the captured German whaler Bismarck who received the Name Afrikander while Ludwig Wiener got its original name back.... :idea:

Mission accomplished 8-)

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